Thread: 2.0 coming up on first birthday -- DPS queue issue still not addressed.

Originally Posted by Kazamoto

How do we get more players in per run, without changing current party dynamics...

Player controlled bosses!

While this would be a pretty freaking sweet form of PvP I don't think it'd be particularly useful for dungeons, mostly because it'd require the three DPS controlling the bosses to wait around until the party got to them, which could mean wait-times of up to an hour and a half if the party you're facing is struggling and you drew final boss.

Originally Posted by FJerome

While this would be a pretty freaking sweet form of PvP I don't think it'd be particularly useful for dungeons, mostly because it'd require the three DPS controlling the bosses to wait around until the party got to them, which could mean wait-times of up to an hour and a half if the party you're facing is struggling and you drew final boss.

well.....

Originally Posted by Kazamoto

Yeah, but what about the player for the final boss, he has to just sit and wait until the player gets there before he can do anything.
But, If he does, he gets the same exp and gil as a dungeon runner, for the same time invested, still better than just sitting in queue, plus a token for random loots to be announced by someone else!

This is just a supply and demand issue. You have abundant of supply of DPS with not enough demand for them. Think of yourself as a manufacturing plant that can supply 3 kinds of products: tank, healer and DPS. You know the demand for DPS is low, but for whatever reasons (they can be legit reasons, nothing is right or wrong here. You might like to play DPS, you might like a certain gear and how they look) you still want to enter the market and become a manufacturer for DPS. In this case, you will need to know that unless your product has a perk and can supply a niche market (extremely good player, in a good FC, well geared), then you should expect your product will be on the shelf longer than higher demanded commodities.

By asking the developers for help to change this, you are basically asking the government to intervene. In that sense, there are a lot more to consider as you are trying to shift the equilibrium.

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

I'm only seeing this as a Range DPS.

As a Melee DPS I'm entering a Queue much faster than a Range DPS. Most of the time now almost instant as a Melee DPS.

yeah i noticed that , as BRD i takes like 15-20 min , drg 5 min

guess the game tries to put a melee+ranged ?

Why not increase the party size to scale to a 1 tank 1 heal 6dps party and have content difficulty equally scale to the extra dps. I think this would reduce que times and prepare heal/tanks to raid heal the high end elite content. This would not be a requirement as people can progress normally as a 4 party duty or can select an option for the suggested 8 man dungeon set up. Perhaps an incentive to doing 8 man is doubling the loot chests.

Originally Posted by Firefirefire

Why not increase the party size to scale to a 1 tank 1 heal 6dps party and have content difficulty equally scale to the extra dps. I think this would reduce que times and prepare heal/tanks to raid heal the high end elite content. This would not be a requirement as people can progress normally as a 4 party duty or can select an option for the suggested 8 man dungeon set up. Perhaps an incentive to doing 8 man is doubling the loot chests.

because it don't work like this, with the add of one person (whatever the class) the balance need to be redo, check the time for kill, the space for the survive to the AoE and a lot of other variable. is not doable without a whole change of the game.

Originally Posted by Warlyx

yeah i noticed that , as BRD i takes like 15-20 min , drg 5 min

guess the game tries to put a melee+ranged ?

It was mentioned that the DF has been adjusted to place 1 Tank, 1 Melee DPS, 1 Range DPS, and 1 Healer as the priority setup.

only when it cannot meet this requirement when 2 melee DPS or 2 Range DPS are placed together which causes the long queue for range DPS right now becuase right now the DPS community consists of a very large amount of Range DPS players.

We may see a more balance, issue not changed, or the issue is moved to melee DPS once a new Melee DPS is added into the game.

Originally Posted by Kazamoto

well.....

. . . What the hell is going on in your cluster that your queue times are worse than waiting an hour waiting for a party to get to you?

I'd be down with a party size increase but not just adding dps... Tell a healer to heal 6 dps and a tank and watch them run. No way. 5 or 6 at the most would be okay. I'd really like support classes back too, but that's just a personal preference.