The reason Summoner needs revamp threads keep popping up

[jars]

yes. stop playing the class, don't force the people that like it into something totally different. by level 30 you knew exactly what you were getting into.

[Deathscythe343]

I suppose the only problem with the OP's premise is that if they changed everything that had multiple threads on the forums, they would be changing a lot of stuff.

[AmyNeudaiz]

They keep popping up because you keep making them.

Hahaha Madoka you got my sides hurting with that one

[Pooky_Pasha]

The reason why Summoner needs a revamp threads keep popping up every single week by me is because I keep making them.

Really, all that text could have been reduced to this.

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

People keep making the threads because they like to dream.

[Spellbinder]

They keep popping up, because people don't like to consolidate their ideas for whatever reason.


I'm one of those people who would also like to see summoner changed. No, it's not about Final Fantasy 4 or 11, and it's not trying to be oblivious to the "completeness" of the Final Fantasy 14 summoner. It's a matter of balance for the long term.

For example, what are we going to do if they introduce new Egi that are still underwhelming due to the heavy use of Contagion? What are we going to do if the new Egi have something even more overbearing than Contagion? The job, at the moment, is mechanically sound, but they need to better balance the Egi so that we're not just DoTs with a one-trick-Egi-pony. If a summoner has 4 or 5 Egi in their arsenal, there should be incentive to use all of them, and the way the Egi are designed, I don't see that happening when we have more to choose from in the future.

If anyone is looking for a constructive conversation that doesn't boil down to the following:
A: "I want summoner changed to (insert proposterous idea here)."
B: "Summoner is perfect the way it is. Get over it or find another game."

I implore you, try to keep it all in one place　↓

(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread (58 pages)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...eedback-Thread

召喚士に関するフィードバックを書くスレ (23 pages)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...82%B9%E3%83%AC

[Bombast]

They keep popping up, because people don't like to consolidate their ideas for whatever reason.

I'm one of those people who would also like to see summoner changed. No, it's not about Final Fantasy 4 or 11, and it's not trying to be oblivious to the "completeness" of the Final Fantasy 14 summoner. It's a matter of balance for the long term.

For example, what are we going to do if they introduce new Egi that are still underwhelming due to the heavy use of Contagion? What are we going to do if the new Egi have something even more overbearing than Contagion? The job, at the moment, is mechanically sound, but they need to better balance the Egi so that we're not just DoTs with a one-trick-Egi-pony. If a summoner has 4 or 5 Egi in their arsenal, there should be incentive to use all of them, and the way the Egi are designed, I don't see that happening when we have more to choose from in the future.

Re-tooling Egi's is one thing, and something I certainly sympathize with. But that's not really a rework of the Summoner as a class.

[givemeraptors]

For example, what are we going to do if they introduce new Egi that are still underwhelming due to the heavy use of Contagion?

I actually use all three of my egis pretty regularly. Titan for solo, Garuda for Primals/Coil, Ifrit for most dungeons (exception of two or three).

Contagion is overrated.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

I actually use all three of my egis pretty regularly. Titan for solo, Garuda for Primals/Coil, Ifrit for most dungeons (exception of two or three).

Contagion is overrated.

^ this

i use all three egis too, titan for solo, and garuda and ifrit depending on the fight.

[Apl_Juice]

I really like the feel of the job now.

The only thing I'd be okay with is an overall buff to egis and a nerf to the actual SMN to compensate. That way, those who want more "powerful" feeling summoned creatures have that, while SMNs who enjoy the job as is are still ultimately playing the same way as they did before.

Also, I don't think you understand the lore correctly.