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  1. #11
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    Aeliott Cadenza
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    What differences? Frame-rate? Screenshot quality? Seeing more people when afk in Mor Dhona? Load screen being 5 seconds longer which is irrelevant once you're in the instance anyway? :P
    What exactly is stopping them from being amazing? _IF_ fewer PS3 players are amazing it's likely because most don't come from an MMO background, nothing to do with the format itself hindering their ability to clear stuff.
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    Damien Ramirez
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    IT is do-able on ps3 my in game friend has been farming it on balmung on ps3. But he lives close to the server, issue others have been having is delay from the dashes/charges, thats about the only thing you have to worry about. But dont worry its the same issue to some PC users.

    Thats the only downside to random patterns your screwed if you have a hint of delay & back luck with camera view. If it was predetermined like the other fights wouldnt be an issue.
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    Casper Theghost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeliott View Post
    What exactly is stopping them from being amazing?
    -Things appear later on ps3 than on a serious pc or ps4. You thus get less time to react to things (plumes, landslide, dives, dashes).

    -UI is messy and makes it harder to keep track of everything -- elements will overlap with mechanics visual tips.

    -Most of the time, they are using a controller (although they could M+KB), which means having controls that are less fines -- ps3 players hit the boundary of TT during dive way more often than others. Not saying you CANT do it, once again, but on average, they just do, because movement is less precise. Also means they can't click targets in the list of ennemies, making it harder to switch between targets. This is a HUGE problem for tanks, and can be for a dps (switching between the two titan adds during bomb is not a realistic option for example).

    -Can't have access to a vpn service if the game gets laggy. 80% of the players i play with encounter at the very least minor lags at times without a tunnel service. We all use some at least occasionally. This is not an option for ps3 players; when they get some lag, they have to deal with it, and for some fights that is not an option.


    Most of those you can compensate for. But that's the thing. You "compensate" for it, aka you have a disadvantage you have to overcome by being better than others to achieve a similar result.

    Edit: i play on PC most of the time, and sometime during week end i am not at my usual place and play on PS3. The difference is night and day. Given, i am bad with a controller anyway -- but all those other things i listed are not just small details, they are meaningful differences you need to compensate for. There is no way i would be able to play as well on ps3 as i do on pc, no matter the time i use to learn.

    Edit2: I am well aware you can use a SSD to compensate for 1, put some thought into your UI to compensate for 2, use a M+KB to suppress 3, and then with a good connection be mostly fine regarding 4. But first of all, you may still have occasional lag issue, so be at a disadvantage, second of all, that's a lot of work to, as i said, "compensate", and third, i have yet to find a ps3 players running with a SSD, an optimized UI and a M+KB. The "vanilla" ps3 player is simply at a huge handicap compared to the "vanilla" PC player.
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    Last edited by Casper; 04-14-2014 at 10:32 PM.

  4. #14
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    I farmed Levi EX on the PS3 until I switched to the PS4 on Friday. Had no issues caused by hardware. Also had no issues on Titan EX or Turn 5 (even cleared Turn 6 on the PS3)

    Nothing special about my PS3, except that it may need a good dusting. And my fiends love to joke about my terribad internet.

    Its all about knowing the fight and knowing how to react to it.
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeezix View Post
    The zoom might be related to resolution. Please check it.
    It is because ps3 is 720 and other 2 are 1080

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    Supply Demand
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I farmed Levi EX on the PS3 until I switched to the PS4 on Friday. Had no issues caused by hardware. Also had no issues on Titan EX or Turn 5 (even cleared Turn 6 on the PS3)

    Nothing special about my PS3, except that it may need a good dusting. And my fiends love to joke about my terribad internet.

    Its all about knowing the fight and knowing how to react to it.
    I cleared Levi X and Titan X on PS3, but it was HELLA easier to do on PS4 for me. I had it loaded up with almost all of this memory, etc. I'm pretty ignorant with that kind of stuff, but there is a DEFINITE difference, at least for me, between PS4 and PS3. It is dramatic and it is real. Maybe not for some people, but for others there is a big difference.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    I cleared Levi X and Titan X on PS3, but it was HELLA easier to do on PS4 for me. I had it loaded up with almost all of this memory, etc. I'm pretty ignorant with that kind of stuff, but there is a DEFINITE difference, at least for me, between PS4 and PS3. It is dramatic and it is real. Maybe not for some people, but for others there is a big difference.
    I never said there wasn't a difference. Yes, the PS4 version IS better. But, it doesn't mean its impossible on the PS3. Not at all. You can do everything on the PS3 (only things I haven't done on it are Turns 8 and 9, and well, most people are no where near that so I don't really care)
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    I started farming it on PS3 and had no problems. I switched to PS4 this weekend and I cannot go back because the improved FPS is glorious, but you definitely are not at a huge disadvantage on the PS3. Something that I keep seeing when playing with people sometimes is the "I'm on PS3" excuse whenever they cannot do something, and it honestly bothers me because it gives PS3 players a bad name overall and you're blaming hardware for your own shortcomings. There is no single fight on the PS3 that you cannot do. The increased PS4 resolution as well as FPS is a wonderful luxury, but it is not by any means a necessary factor.

    As for the controller argument, I find that this is more of a preference thing. In certain games, likeFPS games, M+KB is objectively better, but not here. I myself find the controller layout much more comfortable and having all my skills in a nice tight hotbar and all a short button press away from my fingers is better (again, this is an opinion). I have never run out of room between my two hotbars and tapping R1 to toggle between them becomes second nature very fast. I have tanked and set number markers and have never felt uncomfortable cycling with the D-Pad.
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    Last edited by Odett; 04-15-2014 at 02:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I never said there wasn't a difference. Yes, the PS4 version IS better. But, it doesn't mean its impossible on the PS3. Not at all. You can do everything on the PS3 (only things I haven't done on it are Turns 8 and 9, and well, most people are no where near that so I don't really care)
    Where did i say it is not doable ? I said you were at a disadvantage that you would have to compensate for.

    Every fight in the game is doable by a PS3 user. But for most challenging encounters, its a hell of a lot easier on PC, or even PS4.
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    Like most things, it's a matter of getting used to your limitations. Does that mean you have to work harder than those who don't have such a handicap (like PC users)? Probably, but that's kind of the point when you have a limitation in place. Once you get used to it, you can work around it to prepare for things.
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