Game, Inposable to understand. (or even getting a sub)

[Seif]

^This.

I have always taught PC gamers are more likely to "explore" a game and figure things out by themselves before giving up. On the contrary, mainstream console games have become more and more easy (Demon's Soul excluded) and always seem to include some dumb tutorial (most of the time it cannot be skipped) that for some of us it's more intrusive than helpful.

But that comes with the higher production costs, and the fact that a failed game (commercially) is more damaging compared to some years ago. I just remembered The Legend of Zelda (NES), you just appeared on the map and that's it. Even the old man (It's dangerous to go alone! Take this!) didn't give out much info. Ahh the good times~

OT but I agree with you 100% the first hour in most games nowadays is really boring as you are treated like a retard before you get to do anything. Especially since most games ore practically the same anyway. (cover based shooters! *barf*)

I really like Resonance of Fate's tutorial that's completely optional can be done in bit whenever the player feels like it and it doesn't treat you like an infant even though the whole game mechanic would make the head of most FPS gamers spin because of the things they need to think about.

[Khalus]

You know there is a "Play Guide" that explains everything in great detail on the Lodestone. And yeah while it would be better in-game for some, its at least a start.

[Adol]

You know there is a "Play Guide" that explains everything in great detail on the Lodestone. And yeah while it would be better in-game for some, its at least a start.

That's true but that will not be satisfactory for the majority of PS3 gamers (the new ones anyway). The information on the lodestone should have been in the game's instruction manual, it's what those things are for. There is virtually nothing gameplay related in the game's manual.
If PC gamers have complained about the lack of in-game tutorials, then I don't even want to know what a console gamer would say about it.

[Tezz_Xivectro]

Tutorials are a growing necessity, but if you're too lazy/stupid to literally explore a game then that's something completely different (and i seriously don't think these people should play games).
I'm sorry, but if someone joins the game (and sadly there are probably plenty) and then immediately give up because of their attention spans & lack of detailed explanations of exactly what to do, then gaming is not for you.

FF14 doesn't even require external sources to complete content, and it's not rocket science(i guess it is in this day & age?) to figure out that Adventurer Guilds are the central locations of any city.

If you're one of these people, then shame on you. The point of video games is exploration & story through a genre of your liking so that you can enjoy yourself.


At the very LEAST, there needs to be on-screen tutorials for basic movement and how to navigate & use your journal to complete things (etc).

[Griss]

Totally agree with you tezz

[Khalus]

+1 Tezz

Even more sad is how incredibly easy games have become in the last decade, and tons of this new generation still require a tutorial, and even then, many more complain its still too hard!

[Vanguard319]

I'd say the OP is nearly impossible to understand, and where does the "getting the sub" part come in? It's like you lost your train-of-thought in mid-post.

Back on topic, if you are referring to subjobs like in XI, there are none. You have this system called the armoury system that lets you select known skills from each class you have leveled, don't know how much longer those will be in game however since they are adding a specialized job system that will likely affect which skills you may use. As for tutorials, most of those are on Lodestone as others on this thread have stated. As for why they did it this way, I can only assume they wanted players to have a reason to check out the messageboard at least once, since many linkshells set up thier own forums.

[Mugiwara]

why of course, we have to make ffxiv idiot proof...

[Cendres]

Touch the aetheryte you know you want to..

[giftforce]

Title: Ironic.