Turn 9 downed in less than one month after release

[Makado]

Congrats to them on the win. Lots of time invested I'm sure! I do however find it kind of stupid SE would allow Turn 8 (and apparently even Turn 7 from what I have heard) to be able to be solo tanked under a month into release. While I don't like forcing double tanks via tank swap mechanics all the time...idk it just seems weird to me that it can be done already.

[Phe]

guide or didn't happen.

[Akoree]

lol @ "light on content"

I do wonder what game has recently come out that took the best FCs(guilds) around a month to complete. I look at the WoW players and I almost cry at how few updates and content they actually get, and when they do get new end-game there is Raid-Finder version which allows any noob to complete it in one sitting.

I would very much like to hear of those games with end-game dungeons/raids so hardcore and heavy on DPS-checks that it takes months for anyone to clear them.

[Ferocious]

lol @ "light on content"

I do wonder what game has recently come out that took the best FCs(guilds) around a month to complete. I look at the WoW players and I almost cry at how few updates and content they actually get, and when they do get new end-game there is Raid-Finder version which allows any noob to complete it in one sitting.

I would very much like to hear of those games with end-game dungeons/raids so hardcore and heavy on DPS-checks that it takes months for anyone to clear them.

Maybe you haven't playing much MMO's? My last serious MMO was Rift before I came to FFXIV. Its raid, Endless Eclipse had some of the toughest bosses guilds encountered and trust me, Rift's community is far more hardcore than this one. It had 5 bosses with strict dps checks on them all and it took a month for world first on last boss. I was in a top 5 guild on server and it took us 3 months to clear it.

Outside of raid grind, then there was solo grind like farming faction reputations that rewarded some BiS parts of gear - which FFXIV needs to implement badly instead of rewarding silly mounts/minions with beast tribes. Then later they released hard mode of bosses, which make this game's extreme primals look like a joke in comparison. So yeah, plenty of hardcore content out there. Heck, even Wildstar is promoting their hardcore 20/40 man raids. We'll see how that turns out.

[ApolloGenX]

Those folks play the game as a job- so this is to be expected. It's probably not reasonable to draw any conclusions about how that performance relates to the performance of people who do not treat the game as a job- who do other things. Kind of like it makes no sense to compare your in game gil to gil farmers.

[Ricky]

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...n_world_first/

Not sure what to think about this. On one hand, BG is an amazing group (and if I remember correctly, the only group to down Twintania before Twister nerfs). On the other, we're going to have a lot of nothing-to-do-endgame threads cropping up soon. >.>

BG is going to have a lot of nothing to do, you/we have a lot of struggle ahead of us. You know they are in Coil like 8 hours a day right? At least. If you have a group willing to do 8+ hours a day 7 days a week then maybe you can down Turn 9 soon, but regular groups will not, so this is not a concern for you

[Sessurea]

gonna lol so hard if they don't release strat. Then lets see what "light on content" says then ^^

[Jinko]

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...n_world_first/

Not sure what to think about this. On one hand, BG is an amazing group (and if I remember correctly, the only group to down Twintania before Twister nerfs). On the other, we're going to have a lot of nothing-to-do-endgame threads cropping up soon. >.>

Assuming others can follow in their footsteps.

It's inevitable that those threads will crop up anyway, SE just aren't releasing content fast enough.

[Luxx]

Assuming others can follow in their footsteps.

It's inevitable that those threads will crop up anyway, SE just aren't releasing content fast enough.

i think 2.2 has a considerable amnt of things to do so i dont think it has anything to do with lack of content.
the thing is that that group plays this game for hours on end, 7 days a week and learned
the ropes quicker than the usual player. so they have wayyy more time on their hands than others do.
the only time you will see an influx of clearers is if they release a video...which i dont think they should
so others can learn by themselves and as a team. i never watch videos on anything.

[L-D-Omlette]

Assuming others can follow in their footsteps.

It's inevitable that those threads will crop up anyway, SE just aren't releasing content fast enough.

Name one form of entertainment (or better yet, consumable media) that can release content faster than it can be consumed...

PvP of any form. MMOs, chess, checkers, tic-tac-toe, chinese chess/checkers, padu, poker.

All of those things can be consumed much faster than the development time to create or implement them.

Edit: Or are you referring to an actual board version of chess/checkers? Those I will concede. As well as the chinese versions, and poker, and padu. But if you are meaning a digital version, my point still stands.