Does Leviathan Cheat?

[DenzelTaru]

Hey guys,

So tonight me and my friends have been farming Ex mode Leviathan, we are a good party and have been one shotting each run..

Then, in one fight, on the second Tidal Wave phase, with the shield up at the right time (and with more than enough charge) he wiped us.

Shellshocked and with someone saying theyve seen that bug before we go again.. we get to the same part, right at the end (which is annoying cos the first one has no problems) and it happens again.. its possible that we activated the shield too late the first time.. but two times in a row.. and that second time we DEFO did it right cos of course everyone was watching for it..

We decided it was bugged, left and rejoined and it didnt happen again..

anyone had this?

[OPneedNerfs]

Most likely latency issues.

Just because the shield goes up on your screens, doesn't mean the server registers it as such.

The latency issues seem to only happen occasionally during instances though.

[rhemi1]

Same thing happens with Garuda EX shield from the Spiny Plume sometimes. It's definitely something to do with server lag.

[DenzelTaru]

i guess that would explain why it fixed when we left.. but the fact we all saw it was weird..

wasn't a rager party but someone woulda said something if they saw it go too late :/

[Vaer]

Had this happen a couple times as well.

Starting to think it might be like Ifrit EX's enrage during the last nail phase.

Possibly DPS pushing too much before the 2nd tidal wave results in a phase change and the shield not proccing and getting hit for the same amount of damage 30k~ as the hard enrage after the third set of warrior adds spawn.

We tried slowing DPS at the part right after the 2nd spumes are killed until the button popped. Didn't happen again.

Seems like it happens more often when the DPS is high enough to skip dive phases or you clean up the 2nd spumes quick using Meteor.

[EasymodeX]

Two things:

1. The shield needs to go up generously before Levi casts the ult. A good 3s or more is preferable. This is a common issue.

2. There is a rare bug where the last orb dying does not stop the drain on the converter. It will keep draining for another 20-30s, leaving you at maybe 15-18 charge by the time Levi does his ult. I suspect this is due to the orbs dying during dives or some other bug. It's pretty rare, but I watch for it and call for a tank LB if necessary.

[DenzelTaru]

Had this happen a couple times as well.

Starting to think it might be like Ifrit EX's enrage during the last nail phase.

Possibly DPS pushing too much before the 2nd tidal wave results in a phase change and the shield not proccing and getting hit for the same amount of damage 30k~ as the hard enrage after the third set of warrior adds spawn.

We tried slowing DPS at the part right after the 2nd spumes are killed until the button popped. Didn't happen again.

Seems like it happens more often when the DPS is high enough to skip dive phases or you clean up the 2nd spumes quick using Meteor.

this seems likely.. after farming so much we got faster and faster.. we were forcing phase jumps, we went from tooth to first orbs with no dive phase for instance

Two things:

1. The shield needs to go up generously before Levi casts the ult. A good 3s or more is preferable. This is a common issue.

2. There is a rare bug where the last orb dying does not stop the drain on the converter. It will keep draining for another 20-30s, leaving you at maybe 15-18 charge by the time Levi does his ult. I suspect this is due to the orbs dying during dives or some other bug. It's pretty rare, but I watch for it and call for a tank LB if necessary.

1 - was up well in time

2 - as far as i remember the bar was yellow meaning it was above 30..

dunno if it was a bug or not.. but as we were fine the whole night i just gotta think that

[Hali]

I actually filed a bug report of this, and it's apparently "working as intended".
It's another one of those stupid "do the fight our way or we will wipe you" mechanics, like in Ifrit Extreme. Put simply, your DPS were too good for the fight and pushed his phase. Which results in Leviathan going "lolno" and killing you no matter what.
My advice is to stop damaging Leviathan as soon as Mercy Stroke and Misery's End pop up, as he seems to hit his "NOPE" button around 17%.

As I put in my bug report, my group was able to do this in i90 with i95 weapons. This fight is going to be nigh impossible to do with this mechanic when people are going to be sat in i110+ Pulling away the finishing line as you reach it is not a good mechanic.

[Ooshima]

Put simply, your DPS were too good for the fight and pushed his phase. Which results in Leviathan going "lolno" and killing you no matter what.
My advice is to stop damaging Leviathan as soon as Mercy Stroke and Misery's End pop up, as he seems to hit his "NOPE" button around 17%.

There are actually a couple of fights where over DPS can be a problem. Wiped in Titan EX once due to over DPS. Twintania and Raffelsia needs to control phase changes if not it could be messy.

Weird SE logic

[Zaft]

There are actually a couple of fights where over DPS can be a problem. Wiped in Titan EX once due to over DPS. Twintania and Raffelsia needs to control phase changes if not it could be messy.

Weird SE logic

We had to stop our Summoners from using Bane during the final nail phase of Ifrit Extreme because it would push him into the hard enrage.

Fun times.