Is a Parser ever comming?

[EasymodeX]

"Sorry, you suck at your class. Go learn to play before you try content again. Your DPS was only XYZ and you need to be at least ABC because Blue Gartr does it with BCD."


People won't learn if they are just told "Go watch Youtube" and "You suck because parsers told me so." It will just make the game worse.

Rofl.

People that are pulling 100 DPS on Titan EX need to get the hell out of Titan EX and go practice on Titan HM until they stop sucking at playing the game.

The two range DPS in Group A in my last CT run who were pulling 60 and 70 DPS on Atomos need to really get the hell out of any group content immediately and go learn how to press 1-2-3-4.

This is an MMORPG. It's not a single player game. Joining a group means having some minimal level of respect for your teammates. That minimum level of respect means doing your job at least vaguely competently. You don't even need to be good.

Every post I read from people crying about "PERFECT ROTATIONZ" is so hilarious. Most of the content in FF14 can be cleared with people performing at 70% of their potential. That is a bottom C in grade school. You can clear most of Coil with a C.

A lot of players are failing with a D or F. They are performing at 40%-60% of their potential or less.

That is completely incompetent. Most groups in this game can tolerate a lot of bad. When you are parsing 100 DPS on Titan EX, you are cesspit of terrible. Disrespecting everyone else in your group who are actually making an effort.

And then you have the whiteknight squad trying to defend them. Lmao.

[Nel_Celestine]

Use training dummies and parsers to optimise DPS; practice rotations. Use guides, videos and advice from good players as supplements. Form or join learning parties in PF to practice fight mechanics. You shouldn't join a farm or clear group unless you are at the level required to farm or clear the content.

99% of PF are "Experienced only" Dummies won't use boss mechanics for you to learn to avoid while DPSing. Guides and videos are ok for knowing what to do but until you start doing it it's not actual experience. If people are being kicked for not being good enough they aren't getting advise so much as a middle finger and a kick out the door.

[XNihili]

Cat's out of the bag. We need parser so we can boot people out of parties. It would be nice if it could be automatic, meaning that newcomers that aren't able to reach 85% of overstuffed veteran players would be automatically kicked by the games and a "Shame on you" tag would be put on his head forever.

[Tiggy]

They won't even add iLvl to examine screens because they are worried how some people might use it in an elitist way. No, they will never add an official parser.

[Nel_Celestine]

Rofl.
And then you have the whiteknight squad trying to defend them. Lmao.

Perhaps read my other posts instead of reading a reply to a reply?

[EasymodeX]

99% of PF are "Experienced only" Dummies won't use boss mechanics for you to learn to avoid while DPSing.

Scrubs who pull 100-150 DPS on Extreme primals don't need help with boss mechanics. They need help learning how to press 1-2-3-4 in front of a boss dummy.

Step 1 before step 2. Said player needs to learn how not to be terrible without boss mechanics (and without holding 7 other players back) before they add in the boss mechanics to make things more complicated.

[EasymodeX]

Perhaps read my other posts instead of reading a reply to a reply?

No thanks. My statement stands regardless of who you are or what you have posted.

[Dianoia]

I see people say this all the time, yet my experience in other games, and this one too, that behavior has been a rarity for me.

"Grief" means give people direct feedback that they aren't performing well enough for the content they're attempting.

[Raenryong]

99% of PF are "Experienced only" Dummies won't use boss mechanics for you to learn to avoid while DPSing. Guides and videos are ok for knowing what to do but until you start doing it it's not actual experience. If people are being kicked for not being good enough they aren't getting advise so much as a middle finger and a kick out the door.

You can make your own group. There are plenty of players out there who want to learn fights!

Yeah, but if your DPS vs a stationary dummy isn't at least 225+ (and this is on the low side - 250+ is achievable with i70 gear on any DPS), your output is unlikely to be good enough at any mechanical fight. Every DPS should go and practice their rotations/experiment etc until they are able to output a good level of raw dps. Then they can take their rotation knowledge etc into fights with mechanics and even if they suffer losses (which are inevitable), losing 20% of 225 DPS is a hell of a lot better than losing 20% of 180 DPS for instance. Plus, the more you practice a rotation, the less you have to concentrate on it, freeing up your attention for dodging etc.

If you join a farming or clear party, your performance should be good enough to comfortably occupy your role, ESPECIALLY if for a farming party.

Cat's out of the bag. We need parser so we can boot people out of parties. It would be nice if it could be automatic, meaning that newcomers that aren't able to reach 85% of overstuffed veteran players would be automatically kicked by the games and a "Shame on you" tag would be put on his head forever.

It's not "new vs old", it's "performing vs not performing". If someone isn't performing, then they are are not contributing properly to the group. New players are perfectly capable of having the performance required, and I know many new players who I would take into high tier content with no qualms whatsoever. Half of my static had never touched Coil etc before but I knew they could perform. A player who has played the game long enough to get ~i70 gear could watch guides and learn rotations, practice, and achieve the output necessary to tackle all content until T5.

[ReplicaX]

I did read your thread and said nothing was wrong with a self parser. The tags were directed at the other about 80% or so of the parser enthusiast social "justice" zealots that derailed your thread long before I even said anything in it begging for full parsers.

It's an example, regardless of topic or individual opinion. Taking advantage of forum mod/rules to bring down a thread is detrimental and counterproductive coming from all sides/parties of a topic.

Although after thinking more about self parsers there's potential for abuse there too.

How far would you like to go regarding abuse in general while punishing/restricting legitimate players?

If a player is going that far to be abusive, regardless of how small the conduit is, its the player, that individual's personal attitude and they should be dealt with. That is what TOS/User Agreement Enforcement is for.