Crafter=Botter (90%)

[Athaya]

I know that SE do nothing about this...I know that there are person that say in this forum (I'm Botting and SE do nothing)

But this is my idea...

days ago I'm at friend's home and my eyes was catched by a little lalafell on screen with my friend that was engage in crafting (in legal and normal way)

After around half hour i am definitively that NOBODY (normal, with a social life) can have multiple 50 craft without a bot assistance.

Or a perso is an Android or is quite impossible to stay hour and hour in crafting..

We don't talk about fishing and etc... that are more terrible.

Personally i don't like crafting....but in older system (like FFXI) is possible to reach lv 100 craft with fair gaming.

Here with failure of recipe, random exp, and bad crafting system (made to encourage botting).

I like FFXIV but is very very very bad to see botter all around the game.... a game that, again, with him mechanics encourage BOT and not fair players....

Shame on SE....

Possibility to craft(BOT) in istance is again a very unhappy choice. that seem to be a gift for unfair players

When GOB bounty hunters against bot? (near every mining/logging point and etc?)

Or aggro mercenary lv 99? (XD)

You are an idiot!

[Seikninkuru]

I'm sure he's right. Crafting is too boring to do legit. Well unless you have downe syndrome or something.

[Athaya]

I'm sure he's right. Crafting is too boring to do legit. Well unless you have downe syndrome or something.

You are an idiot!

[Zephir]

You are an idiot!

2..mmmh who is the idiot?

Probably a person that isn't able to write different thing...congratulation XD

[alexi14]

As a programmer... okay, you got me.. I dont know like C, but I know web development languages.. As a web developer, I think I have a pretty good understanding of how code works, etc. Anyway, Bots can be super smart. You can add hundreds of If, elseif, else statements, and make things work. The only way to stop a bot is to create random things that could happen.

Say.. since you're closer to the water, you may get bit by a bug, and it can do 1dmg, and also stop you from your craft/fishing. Say there is a 1% chance that may happen in an hour.

Say a bird could crap on your head, and make you shocked and disgusted. This would stop you your gathering/crafting for a moment. This could have a 1% chance happening if your outside.

Say.. a mob might come up and attack you.

Say your pole breaks from a bit fish. 2% chance of happening if it's a big fish.

All these little things that have a small chance of happening, they are what will throw a bot off.


I'll add one more thing. If devs could do little things to change the game each time you craft.. say your inventory scrambles, or your menu for crafting moves to the right a little. Just super small things that humans won't care about, but bots gets lost because they can't adjust.

OR a good ol' anti bot task force

I'd love a kick emote. Say you have the opportunity to use a /kick once every 3 hours. This emote allows you to cancel someone's crafting/fishing, and perhaps they fall over and their inventory gets scrambled, and something happens to messes up the bot. I'm willing to bed there are a lot of bored people who would go 'bot hunting'. searching out botters hiding in remote places to /kick. gosh knows they wouldn't have the ghall to bot in uldah anymore!

[DoubleEcho]

As a programmer... okay, you got me.. I dont know like C, but I know web development languages.. As a web developer, I think I have a pretty good understanding of how code works, etc. Anyway, Bots can be super smart. You can add hundreds of If, elseif, else statements, and make things work. The only way to stop a bot is to create random things that could happen.

Say.. since you're closer to the water, you may get bit by a bug, and it can do 1dmg, and also stop you from your craft/fishing. Say there is a 1% chance that may happen in an hour.

Say a bird could crap on your head, and make you shocked and disgusted. This would stop you your gathering/crafting for a moment. This could have a 1% chance happening if your outside.

Say.. a mob might come up and attack you.

Say your pole breaks from a bit fish. 2% chance of happening if it's a big fish.

All these little things that have a small chance of happening, they are what will throw a bot off.


I'll add one more thing. If devs could do little things to change the game each time you craft.. say your inventory scrambles, or your menu for crafting moves to the right a little. Just super small things that humans won't care about, but bots gets lost because they can't adjust.

OR a good ol' anti bot task force

I'd love a kick emote. Say you have the opportunity to use a /kick once every 3 hours. This emote allows you to cancel someone's crafting/fishing, and perhaps they fall over and their inventory gets scrambled, and something happens to messes up the bot. I'm willing to bed there are a lot of bored people who would go 'bot hunting'. searching out botters hiding in remote places to /kick. gosh knows they wouldn't have the ghall to bot in uldah anymore!

I'm sorry but these are terrible ideas that would only exist to aggravate crafters and gatherers. Would you enjoy it if someone could /kick you and steal your mob? That's the same thing you're proposing for crafting/gathering, a way to grief other players. Also scrambling your inventory wouldn't matter because of recipes, but even so this would just annoy people.

[darkstarpoet1]

As a programmer... okay, you got me.. I dont know like C, but I know web development languages.. As a web developer, I think I have a pretty good understanding of how code works, etc. Anyway, Bots can be super smart. You can add hundreds of If, elseif, else statements, and make things work. The only way to stop a bot is to create random things that could happen.

Say.. since you're closer to the water, you may get bit by a bug, and it can do 1dmg, and also stop you from your craft/fishing. Say there is a 1% chance that may happen in an hour.

Say a bird could crap on your head, and make you shocked and disgusted. This would stop you your gathering/crafting for a moment. This could have a 1% chance happening if your outside.

Say.. a mob might come up and attack you.

Say your pole breaks from a bit fish. 2% chance of happening if it's a big fish.

All these little things that have a small chance of happening, they are what will throw a bot off.


I'll add one more thing. If devs could do little things to change the game each time you craft.. say your inventory scrambles, or your menu for crafting moves to the right a little. Just super small things that humans won't care about, but bots gets lost because they can't adjust.

OR a good ol' anti bot task force

I'd love a kick emote. Say you have the opportunity to use a /kick once every 3 hours. This emote allows you to cancel someone's crafting/fishing, and perhaps they fall over and their inventory gets scrambled, and something happens to messes up the bot. I'm willing to bed there are a lot of bored people who would go 'bot hunting'. searching out botters hiding in remote places to /kick. gosh knows they wouldn't have the ghall to bot in uldah anymore!

and with each of those random things if they add a bug that can bite you that is one simple open of the source code and adding one more elseif/then and then recompiling the program and updating the subscribers. this is once again exactly the meaning of things that would annoy the legit players and not stop a bot.

if it is easy to work around for them then you did nothing to prevent it, but made a tedious and boring experience more annoying.

btw, no the languages are nowhere similar.

the once every 3 hour kick for players is a horrible idea as it will give a person a way to grief someone just to do it.

[Skeloton]

lol I may aswell be a bot, the amount of times I've fallen asleep still tapping the enter key

[Ashiivas]

I don't see how you could. It's painstakingly boring and frustrating lol. :x

[alexi14]

Well, the thing is, if you add a 2% chance rate to smoething like a bug bite, it's so rare that people who turn a bot on, and go to sleep aren't going to really know if their bot can respond appropriately to the bug. It wouldn't be common enough to do excellent testing. Bots are usually pretty buggy regardless. Also, the kick feature could do something like.. not waste the materials you were using. It is a way to grief someone, but it is a minor inconvienance for someone who's there. They have to spend another 30 seconds doing 1 synth IF they are kicked. I'm confident people would save their kicks for would-be botters

P.s. I know I'm not super smart, but try not to flame me too much lol. I'm trying to make solutions instead of just complain