Crafter=Botter (90%)

[Rjain]

yahahhahahahaha congratulations

jealous???? i don't care about craft or Ihave more 50 than you...but that botting is a plague in this game in obvious....

Or you never go in Umbra island..or you never try to tell to people that are grinding craft...

try..and a new word open in front of your eyes.....

I'm ok with the fact that there are fair player that craft..

But game design encourage botting...

BTW you can call you Idiot..or yours relatives THX i don't know you and you don't know me, than take the distance....

Pop quiz, how many games don't encourage botting?

BEEEEH sorry time's up all they all do.

Have yet to encounter an MMO without a ton of bots.

[Zephir]

Pop quiz, how many games don't encourage botting?

BEEEEH sorry time's up none do.

and you are ok with this???

[Rjain]

and you are ok with this???

I would like to wave my hand and get rid of bots but the likelihood is the same as me waving my hand and getting rid of stupid people or waving my hand and having my dinner appear before my hands. None of which are ever going to happen.

[Zephir]

I would like to wave my hand and get rid of bots but the likelihood is the same as me waving my hand and getting rid of stupid people or waving my hand and having my dinner appear before my hands. None of which are ever going to happen.

it's sad.....ok they never disappear...
We have example with Microsoft policy against piracy..with no ban for a lot of tiem and maxy ban every times a big game went out....

This don't solve the problem....true...but at least..can we have this ban????

[TheVedis]

Pop quiz, how many games don't encourage botting?

BEEEEH sorry time's up all they all do.

Have yet to encounter an MMO without a ton of bots.

also id like to point this out as a pure FACT

every game has this issue, its not the game that causes the issue, its the fact that it is a game, and someone wants to find a way to make it easier/cheat, so they use/make bots

its not the games, but the nature of the people who play them

[Val_Rhys]

every game has this issue, its not the game that causes the issue, its the fact that it is a game, and someone wants to find a way to make it easier/cheat, so they use/make bots

This is very true. But this game has an especially tedious and bot-friendly system for an essential component of the game.

[TheVedis]

This is very true. But this game has an especially tedious and bot-friendly system for an essential component of the game.

being tedious to level doesnt make it bot friendly
hell, this game is actualy alot less bot friendly then several others, the EASIER the system the easier it is to bot, not the other way around

the only reason people make such a big deal out of it here atm is cuz they arent catching them as quickly as some people would like(or the fact alot of players are just damn right haters who wanna see anyone who crafts alot banned, and im not kidding, go read peregrines posts)

[Val_Rhys]

being tedious to level doesnt make it bot friendly
hell, this game is actualy alot less bot friendly then several others, the EASIER the system the easier it is to bot, not the other way around

That's basically my point. It is insanely easy to craft, making it bot-friendly, and it's also very tedious, providing players additional motivation because the thought of actually crafting themselves is mind-numbing.

Don't get me wrong though, I don't think people with a few r50 classes are botters (and frankly I don't really care if they are). I do think this crafting system lends itself to botting though and more fundamental changes are needed, that the OP entirely missed.

[TheVedis]

That's basically my point. It is insanely easy to craft, making it bot-friendly, and it's also very tedious, providing players additional motivation because the thought of actually crafting themselves is mind-numbing.

Don't get me wrong though, I don't think people with a few r50 classes are botters (and frankly I don't really care if they are). I do think this crafting system lends itself to botting though and more fundamental changes are needed, that the OP entirely missed.

yes, its easy to craft, but not as easy as other games out there
which is why its a moot point

yes people bot, but they bot in EVERY game, and its worse in many other games cuz lets face it, its that much easier to do in other games(you can use a macroer to do it in other games, and thats alot harder to set up for this)