Crafter=Botter (90%)

[Gun_Anam]

I'm sure bot can not play puzzle game that random every times. So just make it puzzle and all will be good

While I do like the sentiment behind your post, and agree that it should be made harder to bot, one must remember that bots can be programmed to perform almost any task more efficently than a human regardless of how complex it is. This is how we ended up with computers that could defeat chess champions. No matter how complex crafting/gathering is made, it will always be possible to create a bot to perform the same task better than a human could.

The best we can hope for is that SE make crafting/gathering more fun for people who do it legitimately and implement their own bot identification system to allow them to rid the game of those who cheat the game in this way.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

when i craft, i dont reply to whisper, because ima spamming my standard syn while watching some recorded movies.

[Rinsui]

It's possible to have multiple 50s with fair gaming, but I know many people who bot and nobody seems to care. It annoys me too. But perhaps SE should have tried making crafting-progression less boring?

This. Theoretically, it is possible without botting. But it's no secret that a good portion of the "true hardcore" crafters are using a bot of some sort. Hell, it's so easy to do, and since SE does absolutely nothing against it (and will not do anything in the near future) - I understand why they do it.

They will not get banned now, because atm, SE is fully busy with reviving the game. I seriously doubt they actually invest power in the so-called "anti-rmt-task-force" or even collect data on suspicious activity. And good luck proving someone is a botter without direct 1-on-1 observation. That's simply not a priority right now.

And they will not bet banned in the future either, because by the time the task-force finally becomes active, they will be busy weeding out the new botters, and not those that botted 6 months ago. It's very sad, but I think those who bot now will actually be the "winners" in the long run - they make use of a blind spot in FFXIV's history, where no rules whatsoever are enforced.

[CanteJondo]

Hmm, personal experience I've only ever seen jumbled name RMT bot crafting, plus maybe 2-3 actual legit players who I've suspected. I'd be very surprised if the actual figure of bot crafters is more than 5%

But it doesnt matter so much. Once those botters hit 50, they're left with the mass spam synths for money rather than playing the market like a good crafter does, so they're not really affecting legit crafters to any great extent. HQ bot? nah, wont happen!

I raised weaver and leather to 50 before the SP was boosted. 150-350 SP max a synth. It took entire runs of maybe 5-6 tv shows plus countless films but when it's done in that way, or whilst chatting to LS mates... its really nice and relaxing. With the SP as it is now, getting a craft up high isn't that much of a grind, especially if you know how to approach it - crafting = socialise/net browsing/film watching time, very relaxing.

[Belial]

I know that SE do nothing about this...I know that there are person that say in this forum (I'm Botting and SE do nothing)

But this is my idea...

days ago I'm at friend's home and my eyes was catched by a little lalafell on screen with my friend that was engage in crafting (in legal and normal way)

After around half hour i am definitively that NOBODY (normal, with a social life) can have multiple 50 craft without a bot assistance.

Or a perso is an Android or is quite impossible to stay hour and hour in crafting..

We don't talk about fishing and etc... that are more terrible.

Personally i don't like crafting....but in older system (like FFXI) is possible to reach lv 100 craft with fair gaming.

Here with failure of recipe, random exp, and bad crafting system (made to encourage botting).

I like FFXIV but is very very very bad to see botter all around the game.... a game that, again, with him mechanics encourage BOT and not fair players....

Shame on SE....

Possibility to craft(BOT) in istance is again a very unhappy choice. that seem to be a gift for unfair players

When GOB bounty hunters against bot? (near every mining/logging point and etc?)

Or aggro mercenary lv 99? (XD)

90% of players with poor english are bots, did you know this? I'm going to assume you are a bot since this post is well over an hour old and you clearly are not normal, nor have a social life.

[Ichi]

I don't understand are we supporting bots now? Most of the comments on here seem that way. I say ban them SE stop taking so long please you know you wanna. Do it you know who they are ban them for us, for you. They spit in your face SE make them curse their lives.

[TheVedis]

I don't understand are we supporting bots now? Most of the comments on here seem that way. I say ban them SE stop taking so long please you know you wanna. Do it you know who they are ban them for us, for you. They spit in your face SE make them curse their lives.

no one is really supporting them, but there is a huge misunderstanding with some people as to why they exist

it has nothing to do with THIS GAME that causes people to bot

people bot, because they can, they are the same people who will bot in every single mmo they can get away with it in, regardless of how hard or easy something is

and the solution is quite simple, ban them all


making the mini games "more fun" isnt a solution, as lets face it, no one has a good idea for what more fun means(and hell no to playing bejeweled or something like that for a mini game)

[giftforce]

no one is really supporting them, but there is a huge misunderstanding with some people as to why they exist

it has nothing to do with THIS GAME that causes people to bot

people bot, because they can, they are the same people who will bot in every single mmo they can get away with it in, regardless of how hard or easy something is

and the solution is quite simple, ban them all


making the mini games "more fun" isnt a solution, as lets face it, no one has a good idea for what more fun means(and hell no to playing bejeweled or something like that for a mini game)

One way to abate botting is to make crafting-progression based on questing rather than having it based on spamming recipes and hording materials.

[Eugenics]

Ahah TheVedis, we need angry birds as the mini game. I'm always running phone battery out playing that game.

[Icopico]

Ahah TheVedis, we need angry birds as the mini game. I'm always running phone battery out playing that game.

WIN. lol!!