wtf?????????????

[kukurumei]

It is downright silly to cast even one holy in t4, unless you enjoy seeing MISS appear all over your screen.

There is no reason for any healer, whm or sch, to dps in t4, especially with the echo buff now (previously you just needed a decently geared group).

Whm can throw a holy on spiders pre-echo as a safety, but realistically anything besides that a sch, a 360ish acc will not hit anyway, except spiders(which seems like low acc requirement)

As a sch, even free to dps, I get maybe a whopping 45dps on T4 (maybe shadowflare counts maybe it doesn't) But definitely a sch dps is even worse then a whm dpsing.

a healer acc is not meant for coil.

I think in terms of parsing out healer damage....they are both below 2% on T4 runs. Not significant at all.

[Ghishlain]

Whm can throw a holy on spiders pre-echo as a safety, but realistically anything besides that a sch, a 360ish acc will not hit anyway, except spiders(which seems like low acc requirement)

As a sch, even free to dps, I get maybe a whopping 45dps on T4 (maybe shadowflare counts maybe it doesn't) But definitely a sch dps is even worse then a whm dpsing.

a healer acc is not meant for coil.

I think in terms of parsing out healer damage....they are both below 2% on T4 runs. Not significant at all.

Respectfully disagree about accuracy. I count the amount of times I've seen Energy Drain miss dreadnaught on a single hand in the 15+ T4 runs I've participated in and it's rare to see Miasma miss, and Holy stops things dead in their tracks in P1 and P4. I can consistently land Stone II on soldiers in P2 once half the adds are dead and fairly regularly on the Dreadnaught. However, I notice a significant miss rate against the nodes in T2. I think T4 has a lower accuracy requirement compared to the other Turns due to the fact it's a "Kill all trash as fast as possible" turn.

But like you said, if the DPS can't kill T4 even with the increased 10% damage, yeah, something is horribly wrong with your DPS.

[whiskeybravo]

Respectfully disagree about accuracy. I count the amount of times I've seen Energy Drain miss dreadnaught on a single hand in the 15+ T4 runs I've participated in and it's rare to see Miasma miss, and Holy stops things dead in their tracks in P1 and P4.

All WHM I've ran with, and even running on my own WHM, report misses on every attack. On every turn... It may be that 341 accuracy give you like 5% (or something ridiculously low) chance to hit.. 435 accuracy is obviously for 100% hit chance.. But I suppose you could occasionally hit something with the minimum.

/shrug

[Menae]

All WHM I've ran with, and even running on my own WHM, report misses on every attack. On every turn... It may be that 341 accuracy give you like 5% (or something ridiculously low) chance to hit.. 435 accuracy is obviously for 100% hit chance.. But I suppose you could occasionally hit something with the minimum.

/shrug

5% is waaaaay too low. I'd guesstimate the real chance of hitting to be about 75% with 341 on T4, though I've no solid evidence to support that number.

[Taika]

All WHM I've ran with, and even running on my own WHM, report misses on every attack. On every turn...

What? Every attack on every turn? I do know I miss a lot in Coil as WHM but I for example have been keeping Aero DoTs on Twintania in last two phases. I don't use a parser so don't know my ACC % but it's been something like 340-350 I guess.

5% is waaaaay too low. I'd guesstimate the real chance of hitting to be about 75% with 341 on T4, though I've no solid evidence to support that number.

Around 75% would be my guess too. Not good enough for a tank or actual DD but very much doable for WHM and SCH.