Binding Coil of Bahamut - Turn 2 Question (???)

[Aife]

I'm sure the fact that I am even asking this question will be answer enough for some - but I've been noticing on my server I see a lot of Binding Coil of Bahamut farming groups that specify that they do not want a SMN.

Can anyone shed some light on why exactly? I haven't run this myself - I've watched the videos but I have not been able to get into a PUG to go on my server and have heard I'd be wasting my time trying to use the DF...

Thanks in advance (hopefully.)

[Genesis-xyx]

I can't see why someone wouldn't want a SMN in their party. The only time I've seen a party not allowing SMN's is when they're not allowing a BLM either, usually due to the fact that a SMN or BLM was part of the original group who started the party and they want to avoid competition on their loots. I could just be missing something though.

[Legend_]

In thinking loot competition too, I could be wrong though.

As my second job is BLM with Turns 2 and 4 dropping the majority of gear I want to target 1st I might just block you too

[Ulathskullsplitter]

^ It probably has to do with the caster loot. A lot of good caster pieces drop in turn 2. Odds are those parties already had 1 that didn't want to roll against another caster.

[Aife]

The loot thing is a good callout. I didn't really think of it that way...

Thanks for your insights. That actually makes a lot more sense than what I was thinking.

[Shadex]

Another possible reason could be the Enrage method allot of people are using. I notice the SMN pet dying a lot which would cut down on their damage while gone or being resummoned.

[kukurumei]

Another possible reason could be the Enrage method allot of people are using. I notice the SMN pet dying a lot which would cut down on their damage while gone or being resummoned.

Enrage with 10% echo is pretty hard not to win. But yes, if you go the piercing route, you cut down on magic.

If you're going it normal, then a smn might be bad in terms of burn rate. though I don't think anyone would attempt to kill the rot until 20% honestly.

[Bloodclaw]

I can't see why someone wouldn't want a SMN in their party. The only time I've seen a party not allowing SMN's is when they're not allowing a BLM either, usually due to the fact that a SMN or BLM was part of the original group who started the party and they want to avoid competition on their loots. I could just be missing something though.

Yeah was farming it all day for caster gloves and someone joined in and on their 1st run, with ilvl 73 gear, got the gloves I wanted. Was disheartened.