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    Market Ward Suggestion: UI element Listing Retainers and their Loctation

    This idea kinda stems from another persons mention that they use a Screen cap of the search screen as a tool to help them in the wards.


    Instead of using this outside system to resolve it they should simply add a UI box that only shows up while in the Wards and actively searching, It could be a small box off to the left with each of the cheapest 5 retainers selling that item listed. Clicking on one would automatically teleport you right in front of the retainer and give that retainer load priority for visibility. Allowing you to easily locate them find the item you want and buy it. Once the item is sold out, they would actively be removed from your UI Box and the next person on the search would roll into the empty spot, with the cheapest on the top and the more expensive on the bottom.

    This would ease searching and finding retainers and make the markets flow a bit faster for everyone.
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    Last edited by Cairdeas; 07-12-2011 at 02:15 AM.
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    Awe come on guys this idea isn't that bad.
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    It's convenient don't get me wrong, but is it that hard to just remember the retainer name? It takes 20 seconds to find whoever it is anyway
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    Or have the option to buy the item from the search list for an extra fee, like 25% or 30%.
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    Inb4 [and supporting the] 'Just add an AH' post.

    You're pretty much at a point here where it's an auction house + additional inconvenience, I don't see the point, unless you're implying a temporary solution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    Or have the option to buy the item from the search list for an extra fee, like 25% or 30%.
    http://bluntobject.files.wordpress.c...shit-again.jpg

    No sir, no. Charging people to perform an action with the convenience of any other game on the market makes little to no sense, rewarding people who have more time for doing nothing but inconveniencing themselves makes equally little sense. Bored of the 'I have more time to throw away, reward me' thing now, you're not entitled to any more than anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    No sir, no. Charging people to perform an action with the convenience of any other game on the market makes little to no sense, rewarding people who have more time for doing nothing but inconveniencing themselves makes equally little sense. Bored of the 'I have more time to throw away, reward me' thing now, you're not entitled to any more than anyone else.
    Well sorry that I don't want to throw away something that gives crafters a sense of ownership. Anyway that's the price of convenience, think of it as buying something from the store vs buying it online. I can buy an item online for less but I have to wait a few days to get it or I can go to the store that day and get it sooner for more.

    Also this gives me a chance to spam my MW idea.

    I really think the UI could be improved upon, so these are my suggestions for the MWs.


    First, get rid of the separate specific wards, just turn them into generic wards numbered from 1 to 20, also have a tax for every ward, only 10%. Except for the Menders Ward, but I'll get to that in a bit. I.E. Spellcraft Ward, Battlecraft Ward -> Ward 1, Ward 2

    Most people throw their retainer in the wrong ward anyway, so just get rid of it. Each of these wards should hold at least 300 retainers. That should give a server population of 3000 with 5 retainers each more than enough space across the three cities.

    Second, levy a lease tax. By doing this you can give every retainer their own small booth. Just increase the length of the hallways to hold up to 300 small booths. The tax would be only about 1000-2000 gil every Earth week. This should reduce the clutter in the hallways and bring about a Gil sink.

    Third, improve accessing the wards and the retainers. I think beside the path leading to the wards and inside the wards, there should be a booth where you handle searching for items and maintaining your retainer. I think it looks pretty bad that your character runs up to an invisible wall and you do your searches from there. The only thing that should pop up is which ward you want to go to. Anyway here's how the counter would work:

    • Talk the person at the counter
    • 6 choices pop up: Search Wards, Manage Retainers, Add Retainers, Remove Retainers, Menders Ward, Leave.
    • When you select Search Wards, you can search by Category like we do now or type in the item you want to find. When you find the item you're looking for, a list shows you pops up showing this things in this order: which ward it's in, the retainer's name, the price, and the item's quality(NQ,HQ). You can select up to 10 items to put into a "queue" so you don't have to take note of which wards they're in. Pink stars still appear above the retainer's head but those stars also appear only on retainer's you put into your queue and disappear after you view that retainer. Also little pink stars appear next to the ward names when you're going to get your items, so you don't have to keep track of which ward the retainer you're looking for is in.
    • When you select Manage Retainers, a list pops up with the with names of your retainers and their locations. Select a retainer, then a their inventory list comes up and so does yours and you can add items from your inventory to their bazaar or to their storage. Also you can see the last 20 items they sold. No need to go searching for you retainer.
    • When you select Add Retainers, a list of retainers not currently in a ward can be added to a ward. Just select the retainer, pay the lease tax for one week or up to four weeks if you don't want to keep coming back every week to pay the lease tax, then your retainer is randomly assigned to a ward. That's it!
    • When you select Remove Retainers, a list of retainers currently in the wards is listed, just select a retainer to remove it from a ward.
    • When you select Menders Ward, a list comes up with your retainers not in a ward, select a retainer, select items you need repaired(only items with a condition lower than 100 can be added), assign what you want to pay or trade, then you're done. The retainer is placed into the Menders Wards and it's kept there for only one Earth day.
    • Leave, is self-explanatory.
    To get a retainer you still have to go to the Adventurer's Guild, also the retainer bells would allow you to add or remove your retainers from the wards and you can manage them from there as well.
    Also add in the part about buying the item from the search list for a fee and the MWs are fixed.
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    Just add the auction house like Yoshida promised in 2010 please. Economy is broken and minor tweaks won't get people back to use the MW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    Just add the auction house like Yoshida promised in 2010 please. Economy is broken and minor tweaks won't get people back to use the MW.
    like economy is broken coz MW... nice excuses, but really, MW is an AH where u have to move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    Just add the auction house like Yoshida promised in 2010 please. Economy is broken and minor tweaks won't get people back to use the MW.


    Adding Timed and Blind Bidding wont fix the economy. Fixing the Marketwards to be More Convenient Will.


    An Auction House is a Timed or Blind Bidding Area.

    A Market is a place you buy goods for the listed price conveniently.

    Please stop using words that dont jive with what you really want if all you really want is the Time and Convenience. Thats what half this Twelve Damned argument is about.

    One side is arguing it doesn't want timed or blind bidding (Anti-Auction House, Pro Market)
    The other is arguing that it wants Time and Convenience (Claiming they want an Auction House when Time and Convenience are not dependent on an auction.)

    English as a Language sucks so freaking hard because half the people who speak it do not understand it.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.