What the heck is going on with this patch?

[Colt47]

cut for space.

You're right that it doesn't make sense from a progression standpoint, but it does make sense from an empathetic one. Are you saying it's better that people keep gnashing teeth continuously on the message board than to just open up the area and let people try it out without progressing through turn 5? Because ultimately that is what this is turning into. What are people trying to defend?

[Demus]

What are people trying to defend?

The small amount of integrity that the game has left. You think people that "have the ability" yet can't clear Turn 5 due to "time constraints" should have a shot in Turn 6, but for what purpose? Simply to see how much harder it is, and how much smaller their chances are of completing it? If they weren't happy about being stuck on Turn 5, how do you think they'll feel about Turn 6? Where should it end? All BC turns and primals immediately selectable when they get released?

[darkstarpoet1]

You're right that it doesn't make sense from a progression standpoint, but it does make sense from an empathetic one. Are you saying it's better that people keep gnashing teeth continuously on the message board than to just open up the area and let people try it out without progressing through turn 5? Because ultimately that is what this is turning into. What are people trying to defend?

yes, it is. it's better to want someone to finish a story and progress through the earlier story before they continue going forward. that is the whole point in adding the echo buff to 1-5 was to allow the people that haven't completed(the already nerfed content) to complete the previous content and story and then advance when they have done so. the echo buff to primals and the first turn of coil was done to allow those players to catch up while giving those already there the content at a much higher difficulty than it will have to be for those other players to have a chance against. i could see the complaints now of the people that haven't beaten titan or twin getting stuck in turn 6. would be a bloodbath and constant crying.

doing content this way gives the hardcore people a challenge on newly released content while making the previous content easier so the ones that couldn't beat it originally a chance to beat it. the way they are doing it in stages of nerfs and echo buff allows each tier of player a chance to beat the content when it is difficult for their group. this keeps it from going way too hard to way too easy to them and they get to win while facing a challenge.