What the heck is going on with this patch?

[Colt47]

There's always been people who vent over things they don't like in the game, but even compared to what was going on in 2.1, this is starting to get a little nuts. Atma farming, locking Coil turn 6-9 behind Turn 5 completion, and now even the easter event.

When the Holiday event is causing grumbling something is definitely up.

[Luxx]

atma quest of fates was the easy way out and a lazy design n i bet a whole lot of ppl know it. ppl want long time progression, and they got it.
but it didnt turn out the way a lot of folks wanted it to be and it sucks thal's balls lol.
the mind numb run bumb of it wears me out and i havent even gotten to it. oh wait, i been fate running in 2.0 i can't do it anymore, sorry.

for the easter event; let's all rejoice that for once its not fate related! but oh wait, the stupid bunnies spawn as rare
as davy jones ass and its first come, first serve. it's cute but i cant even find a single sparrigan... ;-;

ps.. here's a list for where they may be:
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...e_coordinates/

[SarcasmMisser]

It turns out that you have to clear the previous turn to do the next turn? zuh? :O

[UBERHAXED]

There's always been people who vent over things they don't like in the game, but even compared to what was going on in 2.1, this is starting to get a little nuts. Atma farming, locking Coil turn 6-9 behind Turn 5 completion, and now even the easter event.

When the Holiday event is causing grumbling something is definitely up.

Oh man you're right. I totally didn't see that coming. Oh wait...

[Colt47]

Oh man you're right. I totally didn't see that coming. Oh wait...

Actually, a lot of people didn't see that coming. Usually in progression based games like this they give people a shot at completing a set of progression content, then globally open up the next section. Doing it this way is pretty archaic.

[saber_alter]

Actually, a lot of people didn't see that coming. Usually in progression based games like this they give people a shot at completing a set of progression content, then globally open up the next section. Doing it this way is pretty archaic.

so i should be able to skip sections of a linear story-line because i didn't beat a section of it yet? k

honestly if you haven't beaten twin yet, you are not ready for 6-9 as an individual or a team.

each turn of coil is but a single part of one large raid. it wouldn't work story-wise if the gridanian subterra was opened up and everyone suddenly knew certain 1.0 characters were loitering in coil

[Kaisha]

Actually, a lot of people didn't see that coming. Usually in progression based games like this they give people a shot at completing a set of progression content, then globally open up the next section. Doing it this way is pretty archaic.

They added echo to the old turns and made them easily accessible. If you couldn't get a group together that could clear turn 5 w/o echo, you have zero hope of clearing turn 6 anyways since the difficulty/mechanics curve just keeps rising.

[UBERHAXED]

Actually, a lot of people didn't see that coming. Usually in progression based games like this they give people a shot at completing a set of progression content, then globally open up the next section. Doing it this way is pretty archaic.

I don't know, maybe it was obvious to me because that's how the setup was for... (wait for it...) the previous 5 turns of coil.

[LunarEmerald]

Actually, a lot of people didn't see that coming. Usually in progression based games like this they give people a shot at completing a set of progression content, then globally open up the next section. Doing it this way is pretty archaic.

They're going to keep making Turns 1-5 easier until everybody can clear it. And I don't mean just the echo buff. I can say for certain, even with 30% echo, the majority won't be clearing Turn 5. They're going to have to heavily nerf it.

Eventually it will reach a point where anybody can clear it.

[Felis]

Actually, a lot of people didn't see that coming. Usually in progression based games like this they give people a shot at completing a set of progression content, then globally open up the next section. Doing it this way is pretty archaic.

Only people who never read dev posts or watch the live letters.