What the heck is going on with this patch?

[Colt47]

There's always been people who vent over things they don't like in the game, but even compared to what was going on in 2.1, this is starting to get a little nuts. Atma farming, locking Coil turn 6-9 behind Turn 5 completion, and now even the easter event.

When the Holiday event is causing grumbling something is definitely up.

[Luxx]

atma quest of fates was the easy way out and a lazy design n i bet a whole lot of ppl know it. ppl want long time progression, and they got it.
but it didnt turn out the way a lot of folks wanted it to be and it sucks thal's balls lol.
the mind numb run bumb of it wears me out and i havent even gotten to it. oh wait, i been fate running in 2.0 i can't do it anymore, sorry.

for the easter event; let's all rejoice that for once its not fate related! but oh wait, the stupid bunnies spawn as rare
as davy jones ass and its first come, first serve. it's cute but i cant even find a single sparrigan... ;-;

ps.. here's a list for where they may be:
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...e_coordinates/

[SarcasmMisser]

It turns out that you have to clear the previous turn to do the next turn? zuh? :O

[UBERHAXED]

There's always been people who vent over things they don't like in the game, but even compared to what was going on in 2.1, this is starting to get a little nuts. Atma farming, locking Coil turn 6-9 behind Turn 5 completion, and now even the easter event.

When the Holiday event is causing grumbling something is definitely up.

Oh man you're right. I totally didn't see that coming. Oh wait...

[Colt47]

Oh man you're right. I totally didn't see that coming. Oh wait...

Actually, a lot of people didn't see that coming. Usually in progression based games like this they give people a shot at completing a set of progression content, then globally open up the next section. Doing it this way is pretty archaic.

[SarcasmMisser]

I'm so angry at Konami, all I want to do is play the second stage of Contra but they make me clear the first stage first! My life is impossible torture.

[Colt47]

I'm so angry at Konami, all I want to do is play the second stage of Contra but they make me clear the first stage first! My life is impossible torture.

Uh... are you trying to troll or are you proposing a strawman argument.

Contra doesn't ask for a 15 dollar sub that promises access to the game content that gets released. Stage 1-5 of Bahamuts coil is like a game onto itself so it would be more accurate to say you couldn't play Megaman X5 without beating Megaman X4.

[SarcasmMisser]

You have access to the game's content, you just gotta unlock it nothing is stopping you but you. Also a truism of every game ever. If you want to keep your analogy (which is flawed) it's like asking to fight the hardest bosses as soon as you unbox a game.

[dejavutwo]

Oh man you're right. I totally didn't see that coming. Oh wait...

Most games I've played, when they release a new tier of raids don't require the previous set in order to allow for people who have fallen behind to catch up. This is important because it becomes very difficult to find groups for the older content.

I found it incredibly difficult to unlock leviathan due to the gating mechanisms they have in place. The difficulty wasn't in clearing the primals, the difficulty was in finding groups - generally taking 1 to 1.5 hours to get a group together. Getting through all 3 primals became a major endeavor because of the time sink in forming parties and the high failure rate of said parties.

In some ways, the gating is good for me right now because it makes Leviathan Ex pugs have a pretty good success rate, but on the other hand it puts up a steep barrier of entry beyond the actual clearing of the prior primals.

[saber_alter]

Actually, a lot of people didn't see that coming. Usually in progression based games like this they give people a shot at completing a set of progression content, then globally open up the next section. Doing it this way is pretty archaic.

so i should be able to skip sections of a linear story-line because i didn't beat a section of it yet? k

honestly if you haven't beaten twin yet, you are not ready for 6-9 as an individual or a team.

each turn of coil is but a single part of one large raid. it wouldn't work story-wise if the gridanian subterra was opened up and everyone suddenly knew certain 1.0 characters were loitering in coil