Disaster in the Darkhold

[Kiote]

I'm with Jenne.. #### or GT#O

[Ichi]

nothing's worse than an incessant cynic. not even the worst dungeon.

[NefarioCall]

Many MMO's, even some with excellent launches, will arrive and fail during the time FFXIV continues to grow.
Starcraft, FFXI, WoW and Counterstrike continue to live on.

I fully agree with the poster who pointed out that FFXI had a slow start as well.

I think FFXIV will be the same.
The active user count will slowly rise to a modest plateau of anywhere between 300,000 and 1 million players by about 2014-2017. A combination of new purchases in combo packs, returning users, the PS3 launch, and disgruntled players from other MMO's that live and fail while FFXIV quietly trudges on will stream into the game. Meanwhile Yoshi and co will continue a deeper level of content at a more refined level of awesome.

Meanwhile a modest profit margin from both the more largely developed FFXIV and the small crew on FFXI will allow FFXI to continue operations, even with a dwindling player base. 24 servers may merge into 16, then 8, and maybe even 4. The relative cost however, of upkeep on an aging FFXI, will continue to work in synergy with a naturally dwindling player base. In any likelyhood it will never dwindle entirely, because those that play it will have invested so much time into such a tightly developed game.

I cannot prove my theory in the dawn of the MMO era, but i suggest that in about 10-15 years time, after FFXIV has properly plateaued and dwindled, FFXVII will be the third main FF MMO by Square. It will take the reigns as the primary profit giver (i'm sure they wanted FFXIV to be that sooner, but hey, it goes). FFXIV and FFXI will fall to the background as self sustaining worlds with secondary, but strong development.

My point is this.
I don't think FFXI or FFXIV will ever go offline unless the world ends or SE goes bankrupt.
That is real job security from something that will only get better. I LIKE IT.

[giftforce]

Many MMO's, even some with excellent launches, will arrive and fail during the time FFXIV continues to grow.
Starcraft, FFXI, WoW and Counterstrike continue to live on.

I fully agree with the poster who pointed out that FFXI had a slow start as well.

I think FFXIV will be the same.
The active user count will slowly rise to a modest plateau of anywhere between 300,000 and 1 million players by about 2014-2017. A combination of new purchases in combo packs, returning users, the PS3 launch, and disgruntled players from other MMO's that live and fail while FFXIV quietly trudges on will stream into the game. Meanwhile Yoshi and co will continue a deeper level of content at a more refined level of awesome.

Meanwhile a modest profit margin from both the more largely developed FFXIV and the small crew on FFXI will allow FFXI to continue operations, even with a dwindling player base. 24 servers may merge into 16, then 8, and maybe even 4. The relative cost however, of upkeep on an aging FFXI, will continue to work in synergy with a naturally dwindling player base. In any likelyhood it will never dwindle entirely, because those that play it will have invested so much time into such a tightly developed game.

I cannot prove my theory in the dawn of the MMO era, but i suggest that in about 10-15 years time, after FFXIV has properly plateaued and dwindled, FFXVII will be the third main FF MMO by Square. It will take the reigns as the primary profit giver (i'm sure they wanted FFXIV to be that sooner, but hey, it goes). FFXIV and FFXI will fall to the background as self sustaining worlds with secondary, but strong development.

My point is this.
I don't think FFXI or FFXIV will ever go offline unless the world ends or SE goes bankrupt.
That is real job security from something that will only get better. I LIKE IT.

Back in the real world...

[elreed]

If you rewatch the movie its actually the pugilist that jumping its the siesmic shock or whatever move they have that makes them jump the jumper is wearing claws ^^ easy mistake tho camera POV almost at a spin atm

Nope its the lancer check him out he jumps and banish like flash then it falls after but its not first eye noticeable you have to pay attention, actually the pug or monk jumps after the dragoon has done the initial jump

[elreed]

actually you can see in 1:07 a flash like flame thats when the dragoon jumps and fades you actually can see how he banish moving upwards then after pug does the jump when hes landing the dragoon appears like falling stabing the mob at 1:09/1:10

[Viridiana]

Nope its the lancer check him out he jumps and banish like flash then it falls after but its not first eye noticeable you have to pay attention, actually the pug or monk jumps after the dragoon has done the initial jump

To which I respond. . .

Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but the battle log denotes only a few things as far as the LNC's actions are concerned, and nothing new.

- Uses Ferocity II
- Chat log shows HP gain from Surge
- Chat log shows loss of Ferocity after completing Twisting Vice (巻き突き) on the Reckless Hippogryf (レクルス・ヒッポグリフ)

edit: i speak japanese, so yeah

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Nope its the lancer check him out he jumps and banish like flash then it falls after but its not first eye noticeable you have to pay attention, actually the pug or monk jumps after the dragoon has done the initial jump

Sorry, I disagree. It looks like the lancer is casting a buff and ducks below the group while casting, not jumping though.

[TirionCrey]

If anyone wants to know what the general MMO community thinks of the update, they can read the comments on:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/07...anced-dungeon/

Reading the comments on sites like massively seem more even and balanced than on these forums where everyone is a devoted follower to the religion that is SE.

A site that states the dungeon as 8man for R40+ is a reliable source now is it? I guess spreading wrong information is even supported. Cause it's R45+, but don't tell anyone...
And what kind of "general MMO" Community is that, that makes 18 comments lmao...I've got more hairs than 18 on my ass and they don't count for the "general ass hair" community...

@Jump people: Seriously, stop this BS Jump discussion finally. It has been confirmed and stated more than once now that the LNC is NOT using Jump.

[Jutien]

This may have been mentioned already as I havn't read every post, but did anyone notice that in the video, next to the party members names their classes are listed as well? and with that being said what exactly is a Lalafel Exc? hhmmmm.....