RNG is ruining this game (ATMA QQ post)

[TheUltimate3]

MMOs like this requires a good amount of RNG because if everything was guaranteed, you would have things done in a very very short amount of time, and as this game has shown during 2.1, become a "Once a Week" game where you after you have completed the thing you can do in that one week, you don't log back on for the rest of it.

If they were to remove things like the RNG component of the Atmas, as many want, for them to stretch out the time it would take to acquire them, which they want, they would have to add a bunch of other things that are hard gated by time, and that by itself would just piss people off and STILL make it a "Once a Week" type of deal.

[Shyluv]

Took me longer than a week to get all of my atma. First 2 days I spent around four hours each and got nothing. Then on the third day I got 4 drops in 3 hours. Next 3 days I spent the whole time grinding fates with a few breaks and got nothing.

Someone in my fc got 2 drops in one day, and then nothing for a whole week. Until just yesterday. Now he only has 3 left to get.

Yet, coil... I spent months trying to get healer gear. Only got 3 pieces of it before 2.2.

RNG is RNG.

[charlemagne]

I shouted at the screen when they didn't drop for the nth time, I swore "just one more fate and then I'm giving up" so many times, I was infuriated and frustrated in equal measure. It took ages. But if I'm honest, I wouldn't have it any other way.

[Gextiv]

Where were you a few months ago when people on the forums complained that they wanted more grindy open world content?

Well, I was busy playing and enjoying the game.

If feedback from a vocal forum minority can have so much impact to the game, then I fear for what will be in store for the future.

[Xatsh]

casuals do not want rng, but if the alternative was released people would not want that either.

Defeat each fate in a zone 30times and you get 1 atma as a reward.....

People need to get over this I must be rewarded if I do X everytime. It is what leads to lack of content. The Grind is what defines a mmo, if you do not like it play a offline game that does not have Final Fantasy in the title... all those are grinds as well.

Having a RNG is better then having nothing to do after tuesday night every week.

And having a RNG is far far far far better then content with lockouts. Honestly coil would be a hell of a lot better if there was no lockout but only a 20-25% chance of getting gear per win, would not have to screw people in the guild over that way every week.

[Hayward]

MMOs need to junk the whole Skinner Box approach altogether. It's completely insulting to the intelligence of most gamers (we're not lab rats, folks) and it promotes the most unjustifiable forms of elitism. A progressive drop rate system would have made this entire argument unnecessary.

[Nadrojj]

6+ Hours in East Shroud, no drop. FC buddy joined me, got not one but two atmas here within five minutes. Wheeeeeeeeeee.

[IIONNICC]

Woke up at 5:30 AM, farmed for 8 hours. (Lower La Noscea)

Woke up again at 6:30 PM, farmed for 4 hours. (Central Thanalan)

No drops.

70 hours total farming and sitting on 10/12 atma.

I'm seriously considering quitting FFXIV.

[Seif]

They will just increase the drop rate and that will be the end if these threads.

I wish they would actually address the complaint about random nature of it rather than the length of the quest.

I hate the idea that by the time I get to this ONE piece of long term content it will probably be already nerfed to be a 2-second thing.
I wouldn't mind a higher drop rate if the quest required more drops accross the board. Just making everything super simple doesn't always make them better.

[razzgrizz3]

many bad decisions this patch. and the grace period as well as goodwill are all but almost gone imho.
as to the atma.
ive already did the grind and yeah they need to adjust this quest for sure. the rng is terible there is no fairness to it at all.
but what i find most disgusting is that we have more than 100 pages worth of discussion on this topic and the devs are yet to weigh in and respond one way or another on this issue. at one recent conference yoshida put up a spreadsheet of how they rebuilt ff14 and one of the major points was "listening to the fans".
you dont listen. you dont even respond on major issues that are ripping this community apart. shamefull