Quote Originally Posted by Gigetsu View Post
While I agree grinding isn't really all that bad, you can understand the complaints from the player base when 95%+ of the content has no grind to it what-so-ever. Then the Atma quest chain gets released which entails a fair investment of time.
It's not even a fair investment in time as it's a lottery which is why the introduction of RNG into this mess is absurd.

This is 2014, not 1999. Yes, people did similar things (if not more tedious) in older MMOs, but that isn't appropriate for modern markets.