Atma farming theory

[Roris]

Using something like server time for a seed doesn't mean you'll get the same results when rolls occur at 'around the same time'. If server time is used for the seed in determining RNG you'd probably have to match the millisecond to get identical results. Like most groups, my Coil group always runs at the same time on the same days, but what drops is never predictable.

Tell that to both our Coil groups who always did it at around the same time and always predicted what would drop and sure enough it was always the same stuff, always Bard and Tank gear at around 12pst and Striking and Healing at around 6pst, gear types were always consistent, not necessarily the gear itself (gloves, body, etc.) but sure enough the classes were. A couple of times? Sure, coincidence. When it happens for 3 months straight? Yeah that's no coincidence. This game uses server time for RNG, amongst other factors sure like most likely party composition or even something like player names but time seems to be the most prevalent, it's really not that uncommon at all to tie an RNG to a clock and it doesn't really have to be synced down to milliseconds either, so there you go. It also doesn't entirely guarantee it 100%, it just gives a much higher drop percentage based on a certain time, that's how this game's RNG works, not all RNG is generated or works the same even if RNG is RNG.

[Billzey]

Tell that to both our Coil groups who always did it at around the same time and always predicted what would drop and sure enough it was always the same stuff, always Bard and Tank gear at around 12pst and Striking and Healing at around 6pst, gear types were always consistent, not necessarily the gear itself (gloves, body, etc.) but sure enough the classes were. A couple of times? Sure, coincidence. When it happens for 3 months straight? Yeah that's no coincidence. This game uses server time for RNG, amongst other factors sure like most likely party composition or even something like player names but time seems to be the most prevalent, it's really not that uncommon at all to tie an RNG to a clock and it doesn't really have to be synced down to milliseconds either, so there you go. It also doesn't entirely guarantee it 100%, it just gives a much higher drop percentage based on a certain time, that's how this game's RNG works, not all RNG is generated or works the same even if RNG is RNG.

Clearly you don't understand how RNG works. If tied to a clock, there is ZERO relation between kills @ 12:30:16 and 12:30:17. RNG is never related to the hour or minute nowadays. Humans love to find patterns where there aren't any.

[Roris]

Clearly you don't understand how RNG works. If tied to a clock, there is ZERO relation between kills @ 12:30:16 and 12:30:17. RNG is never related to the hour or minute nowadays. Humans love to find patterns where there aren't any.

Clearly you don't understand RNG has to be coded in the first place and can be customized with certain parameters and seeds to generate its numbers, especially for drops. Like I said it doesn't have to be down to a millisecond, clearly this game uses server time frames meaning in between certain hours things have a higher or lower chance to drop.

Anyway, the faster people get to the actual part of the Atma quest that doesn't rely on luck and the less people running around thinking they're better than everyone else just because they got lucky on a badly designed quest gate the better, and this guide already has helped a lot of people so it's great.

[DoubleT]

Clearly you don't understand RNG has to be coded in the first place

LMAO stop trying to act like you wrote the code for this game because you did not. What you described is NOT RNG at all, it is KILL AT THIS TIME AN GET THIS DROP. And that is not how this game works, idc how many times your coil groups suppossedly predicted the drops, i still dont believe you lol.

And i can tell you what the seed is for the rng, its the pre-made drop list and percentages for each specific drop on the list, that SE put in for the RNG bot to choose from upon each victory. its not rocket science. it doesnt even have anything to do with party composition either, hence the reason people see all the time, stuff drop for jobs that arent even in the pt. This isnt xi where game time & weather made a huge difference. Why you ask? because this is hello kitty island errr ffxiv i mean an everyone cant be asked to think too hard bout stuff.

[Chiral]

This reminds me of when we used to buy the hourglass for Dynamis from the ~goblin in the zone matching the zone we were doing that night~ and ~entering on the full moon at midnight~

Might as well strip naked and do the Manderville in your living room to bless your drop rate, it would be equally as effective.

[Roris]

LMAO stop trying to act like you wrote the code for this game because you did not. What you described is NOT RNG at all, it is KILL AT THIS TIME AN GET THIS DROP. And that is not how this game works, idc how many times your coil groups suppossedly predicted the drops, i still dont believe you lol.

And i can tell you what the seed is for the rng, its the pre-made drop list and percentages for each specific drop on the list, that SE put in for the RNG bot to choose from upon each victory. its not rocket science. it doesnt even have anything to do with party composition either, hence the reason people see all the time, stuff drop for jobs that arent even in the pt. This isnt xi where game time & weather made a huge difference. Why you ask? because this is hello kitty island errr ffxiv i mean an everyone cant be asked to think too hard bout stuff.

LMAO stop trying to act like RNG coding is that hard to predict. What you described is exactly what happens, you kill stuff at the right hours and the chances are higher because that's how the RNG code works in the game works, I don't care how many times you try to disprove it I still don't believe that you don't believe that I believe.

But seriously more people are using the guide and getting their Atmas with it so that's all that matters in the end, whatever helps everyone bypass this horribly designed quest gate faster.

[Maero]

yeah rng is rng i think. Some people on Leviathan were talking about it yesterday and it seemed to work for them but i just think it was random luck they were having or since i have absolutely no luck they got what i lack. lol

[Rakashu]

There definitely is not a cap on how many you can get in a span of 12 hours. On my second day I had gotten six in less than 7 hours.

[Deathscythe343]

I would say, that until SE confirms this, it is just a theory. Any, so called, evidence that would support this claim is anecdotal.