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    Billzey's Avatar
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    Sakura Ephemera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    Tell that to both our Coil groups who always did it at around the same time and always predicted what would drop and sure enough it was always the same stuff, always Bard and Tank gear at around 12pst and Striking and Healing at around 6pst, gear types were always consistent, not necessarily the gear itself (gloves, body, etc.) but sure enough the classes were. A couple of times? Sure, coincidence. When it happens for 3 months straight? Yeah that's no coincidence. This game uses server time for RNG, amongst other factors sure like most likely party composition or even something like player names but time seems to be the most prevalent, it's really not that uncommon at all to tie an RNG to a clock and it doesn't really have to be synced down to milliseconds either, so there you go. It also doesn't entirely guarantee it 100%, it just gives a much higher drop percentage based on a certain time, that's how this game's RNG works, not all RNG is generated or works the same even if RNG is RNG.
    Clearly you don't understand how RNG works. If tied to a clock, there is ZERO relation between kills @ 12:30:16 and 12:30:17. RNG is never related to the hour or minute nowadays. Humans love to find patterns where there aren't any.
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    Rori Uguu
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billzey View Post
    Clearly you don't understand how RNG works. If tied to a clock, there is ZERO relation between kills @ 12:30:16 and 12:30:17. RNG is never related to the hour or minute nowadays. Humans love to find patterns where there aren't any.
    Clearly you don't understand RNG has to be coded in the first place and can be customized with certain parameters and seeds to generate its numbers, especially for drops. Like I said it doesn't have to be down to a millisecond, clearly this game uses server time frames meaning in between certain hours things have a higher or lower chance to drop.

    Anyway, the faster people get to the actual part of the Atma quest that doesn't rely on luck and the less people running around thinking they're better than everyone else just because they got lucky on a badly designed quest gate the better, and this guide already has helped a lot of people so it's great.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    yeah rng is rng i think. Some people on Leviathan were talking about it yesterday and it seemed to work for them but i just think it was random luck they were having or since i have absolutely no luck they got what i lack. lol
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    There definitely is not a cap on how many you can get in a span of 12 hours. On my second day I had gotten six in less than 7 hours.
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    Zaknafein Do'urden
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    I would say, that until SE confirms this, it is just a theory. Any, so called, evidence that would support this claim is anecdotal.
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    Monkey Nutz
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    I'm not even perfectly sure what the theory is. Is it that if you're farming atma X during hour Y there's an increased drop rate? Additionally you can only qualify for the special increased drop rate on 4 atmas per day? Maybe they're on to something, but I think this is just grasping at straws. I suppose if a lot of people start tracking they'll either disprove it or fail to disprove it.
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Could be legit. Most people find if they don't get it within 30 mins then to swap zones. I got all my Shroud drops at a complete opposite time than listed though.
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    Novari Frilaix
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    Thats not accurate. I gotten an atma then changed fates and get one 10 minutes later.

    I also only farmed at the same time every morning and got them all in a week.

    Its purely RNG. Stop trying to make a theory out of it.
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    Zagam Zixion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wicc View Post
    Thats not accurate. I gotten an atma then changed fates and get one 10 minutes later.

    I also only farmed at the same time every morning and got them all in a week.

    Its purely RNG. Stop trying to make a theory out of it.
    Yes it is a theory, but nowhere did it state that you cant get any outside the times. Im getting so tired of seeing this on every thread posted. The one thing this theory has proved w/o a doubt is the lack of reading comprehension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagam View Post
    Yes it is a theory, but nowhere did it state that you cant get any outside the times. Im getting so tired of seeing this on every thread posted. The one thing this theory has proved w/o a doubt is the lack of reading comprehension.
    The moment someone doesn't agree, the claws come out.

    Here is some reading comprehension for you. The OP asks "Has anyone confirmed this?"
    I am simply saying, in my case, this is not accurate and that too many people have hope for this PURELY random system.

    Maybe you should practice what you preach next time.
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