Extreme Primals

[Advocatus]

I haven't been able to clear the Howling Eye (Extreme) even once. I don't believe I will ever be able to clear it. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, if anything, or if I lack the proper gear, or whatever it is.

I think I'm going to take a break from this game. Maybe I'll quit playing altogether. Nothing in a game should ever have this level of heartbreaking difficulty.

[Huntington]

I just failed like 5 minutes ago, we went until there was 8 minutes left. The last wipe was so damn close too...The reasons for wipes were able to be pointed to two parties:
1. The OT who could not angle Chirada correctly during tornado phase, as a DRG, I either do my standard Thrust combo over and over again, or hope I can get Impulse Drive up before I get knocked around by a whirlwind. They angled her badly on several parts, one of them was the OT and MT tanking right next to each other in that very small area between two tornadoes, there was no way I could dodge so many AoEs and Wicked Wheels and everything else.

2. The DPS and WHM who kept killing the Spiny plumes early, at least 4 wipes because of that, the same BLM I know did it once or twice.

[LunarEmerald]

The fight is really all about the tanks. They have to position Garuda and the sisters properly and pass spiny back and forth. If you're failing repeatedly then most likely it's the the fault of the tanks. If you're the tank, then that would make it your fault. Study up on how to properly position.

Also people need to not be idiots and not kill spiny plume too early.

[Undeadfire]

The fight is really all about the tanks. They have to position Garuda and the sisters properly and pass spiny back and forth. If you're failing repeatedly then most likely it's the the fault of the tanks. If you're the tank, then that would make it your fault. Study up on how to properly position.

Also people need to not be idiots and not kill spiny plume too early.

This ^^^^

But also it's best to look into a FC.

[lxSch]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2021685 some of my input on the issue.

Almost every team will disband because they are shocked by the difficulty increase from HM -> EX, so impatience is the reason. People do not read chat or even speak english, i started marking everything to attack/ignore and it gives good results. The part i cannot change is the disband after few wipes, so i try to do my best teaching people (using marks).

Also, EX primals are not a quest - it's an endgame content that is supposed to take weeks to pass. People new to mmorpg seems to be unaware of this.

[Advocatus]

As a white mage, my average item level is about 75. I have no other level 50 jobs, although my paladin is close. I've never been to the Binding Coil of Bahamut. I have unlocked it, but I've never been there. I don't know what gear I should go for, other than working on my relic weapon zenith. I only have an end result in mind, but nothing for how to get there.

[ValkyrieL]

If both tanks know what they doing, and healers keep up heals than odds are u will win. (Garuda ex)
I did Titan EX last night as part of a PF title "Primal Focus" ofc I knew that was complete BS after checking gear ect. but none the less I still join as tank. first attempt got as far as Superbombs but 1 hear die and 1 dps, wipe.
2nd attempt made it to superbombs and die again. Normally I will dish any pt with misleading titles, as I'm sure this guys were not primal focus ready BUT they could dodge plums/LS so I knew they had clear potential, just needed bomb patterns. (1 healer die after GC from superbombs another wipe).

Anyways, I ended up staying till the 25% buff and clear it. the pt chat was spam with "OMG", "Finally" "YES" right after clear. with 4 people saying they will go practice Ifrit. in DF.
The moral of the story is that if you find a lucky group that makes it past Heart, dodging everything perfectly, with troubles in superbombs, odds are they have clear potential and is best to stick till the end. Normally I don't do this as I want an easy clear not waste my time but it does feel great when u see people celebrating with joy after finally clearing titan ex.

[RhazeCain]

Hi, welcome to content that is moderately challenging. To put things in perspective, I would estimate there are currently 6 to 9 encounters more difficult than Garuda EX, and someone has beaten all of them. Also, there are 7-player groups that "sell" runs through all of the extreme primals where the buyer can just die right at the beginning and they consistently win with 7 people instead of 8.

It seems hard because your group (probably including you) isn't that good at it...yet. Practice, experiment, fail a lot, improve your gear & items, and stick with the same group of people so that you learn together. People that do this accomplish far more than those who do not.

If you can't/won't do the above, then get accustomed to there being some encounters which you just will not win. Those encounters are designed to keep the more accomplished players interested in the game.

There IS such a thing as an encounter that is too hard. See Twintania right after 2.0 release: it took a very long time for even 1 group to beat it, and SE nerfed it immediately after. Garuda EX is not on that level.

[Riyos]

Heartbreaking difficulty lol?
You should try twintania

[Kret]

im going to do my best not to sound like a total dick here. Really people need to stop pointing blame, while yes tanks hold a very important slot in this fight it is not always their fault. playing from a tank and a melee dps standpoint its pretty obvious that each person in the party that has different things to watch for and execute properly, Tanks have to know position, melee need to not be derp ermahgerd spam buttons and know when to back the F*** up, healers have to have communication so one tank doesn't go without heals, and range dps need to know what a god damn spiny plume is and NOT aoe on it.

short end. you need to make sure you know your job and what you need to do. the rest need to do likewise and if PF isnt producing results i think its time you grow a little socially and have a ls or two and a solid active FC. pugs will only take you so far in this game.