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    If no one access a FC house in 35 Days you lose everything! Coming Patch 2.3 ><

    This needs attention. Because I feel like its not fair to players who put time and Gil into buying a house. Now before people get crazy I'm sure this won't effect large Free Companies, It may not effect very many at all but there is a chance it could. Most likely it will only effect a small minority of small FCs. Another thing to consider Will this happen to Personal Housing as well? The reason behind this is to free up server space instead of SE adding new wards.


    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Hello, everyone.

    We do in fact have plans to add more land in the future, but I cannot promise a specific time frame at the moment.

    Also, currently as of patch 2.2, houses will remain intact regardless of whether a free company is active or inactive. However, in the future, in addition to adding land, after patch 2.3 we’ll also be looking into adding a feature so when free company members haven't accessed their house for 35 days (Earth time), their house and land will be automatically forfeit in order to free up the land. We'll also be looking into a system that will display the remaining time until this happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    I just found this while I was looking for something else.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry-(10-30-2013)

    1:14:22
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?

    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

    They wont have anything like that really now! So why now are they adding some old MMO system to the game?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    That is a little extreme isn't it? I can't speak for everyone who owns a house, But since I own a small house that is ridiculous. I mean I can see why, But to just say that after 35 days you lose your house is just wrong. People worked hard to make the Gil to get a house and purchase/make furnishings. I really think this needs to be looked at again, 60-90 days sounds reasonable. I have a small FC and when I mean small I mean two people ( I had 7 but 5 of them quit after 2.1). If I decide to take a break for two or three months I will lose my house, I don't know how many small FCs there are and how many players they have so it might not be such a big deal.

    But maybe there could be a way to convert the house into some type of deed/permit? 35 days the house Is converted to a deed for the same type of land Small/Medium/Large and when the FC leader returns it will be in their mail.
    35 days is not a lot of time. I think 60-90* days would be better. Or convert the loss to Land Deed and a Building Permit. So at 35 days of inactivity in a Free Company house the Land is forfeit and then converted to a Land Deed and a Building Permit for the same size. I would say a refund in Gil but many FCs bought houses at the max and some at the lowest, so there would be an issue. Do you get what you paid or do you get lower? Then some would get upset if they didn't get a full refund of what they paid. And then if it was the case of a full refund of what we paid, People could abuse it. An FC who bought a large house for 89mil gets it all back and then only has to pay 59mil to buy another.... So I think extending the time or a Deed/Permit to the FC leader would be the best.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 04-13-2014 at 01:57 PM.

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    If no one in the FC can be arsed to check the house in more than a month, the FC doesn't need a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    If no one in the FC can be arsed to check the house in more than a month, the FC doesn't need a house.
    Especially considering personal housing is gonna have an FC-housing related option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    If no one in the FC can be arsed to check the house in more than a month, the FC doesn't need a house.
    Like I said this probably won't effect very many Free Companies. But some people do like to take a break from MMOs once in a while, Even if its not their choice. I just think 35 days is not enough time. Yes if your FC has enough players then I'm sure it isn't going to effect you. But I'm sure this is going to effect some people.

    Just imagine if they do this with Personal Housing pretty sure they will. I know for a fact a lot of players take breaks for more than 35 days....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    If no one in the FC can be arsed to check the house in more than a month, the FC doesn't need a house.
    A lot of the FCs that own houses have small memberships made-up of close-knit IRL groups, the sort of groups that can stop playing a game for a month because some event is affecting all of its members IRL; final exams, baby born early, long family vacations, a friend's death, moving home, dorm-wide internet outage nightmare, etc. 35 days is too short to play nicely with real life.
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    I hope this isn't planned for player housing also, IT BETTER NOT BE !
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    My FC doesn't own a house and when we do it will always be used, but I agree this is a totally ass move and should not be so extreme! It's most likely a bad method to get people to keep subbing in the guise of needing the space.

    Bad SE; BAD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Like I said this probably won't effect very many Free Companies. But some people do like to take a break from MMOs once in a while, Even if its not their choice. I just think 35 days is not enough time. Yes if your FC has enough players then I'm sure it isn't going to effect you. But I'm sure this is going to effect some people.

    Just imagine if they do this with Personal Housing pretty sure they will. I know for a fact a lot of players take breaks for more than 35 days....
    Aye 35 days sounds a bit arbitrary for me but their reasoning is sound - if they're not subscribed/playing to enjoy the house, then they don't need a house either.
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    There's only so much SE can do. It's not really fair to "hold" something like a housing plot for 3-4 months while
    someone doesn't play. If people are planning on buying houses to let them rot and only visit them once every
    100+ days, why even bother?

    If you have 2 people in your FC, that is your choice. Which is fine. However, it's not fair to punish a 50-man FC
    that might have wanted that plot because you and your 1 friend decide to not play for 100 days. Just my two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    Aye 35 days sounds a bit arbitrary for me but their reasoning is sound - if they're not subscribed/playing to enjoy the house, then they don't need a house either.
    I understand it. But to take away something from what is going to be a small minority just because someone wants to take a break (willing or not) is unfair. Now 90-120 days if someone isn't coming back by then sure take the house.


    Quote Originally Posted by FJerome View Post
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    My Free company was consisted of Me, My Wife, Her brother, Her cousin, and 3 irl friends. The only ones left are me and her. Stuff happens people move on and will come back when they come back. When I played FFXI I would take 2-3 month breaks every once in a while, I just took like a 3 week break before 2.2. I mean if I have to take a break I could just login once in a while so I didn't lose it.

    I just don't think this is going to stop with Free Company Housing, I think this will also effect Personal Housing. Personal Houses may not take up as much space as FCs, but if they are going to take away players land to free up space for others, Then I can see this happening to Personal Housing also. And then it will effect many more players. But who knows maybe by then SE will have enough servers to handle Housing.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 04-11-2014 at 07:25 AM.

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