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  1. #101
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    Vesuvias's Avatar
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    Xel'enfer Trellvani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worm View Post
    Maybe they'll let you skip the RNG and then you can get to the awesome Book aspect, which is somehow much more appealing to people?
    the books you can see progress as you do them, so what if they are harder, they should be the real time crunch not the bloody atma weapons...
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  2. #102
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesuvias View Post
    the books you can see progress as you do them, so what if they are harder, they should be the real time crunch not the bloody atma weapons...
    It would also mean that people can do the books at their own pace knowing each run puts em a step closer. Less fuss I think.
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  3. #103
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    Raucent Valefor
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    Hyperion
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    less fuss less 0/12 after ??????? Hours/??????Fates, more of a "OK cleared that segment, that's done, lets go do this now"
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  4. #104
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    Shorty Themagnifecent
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    Leviathan
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    bottom line comes down to people dont want luck based quest you could tell people they need to grind 100 fates in 12 zones and there is a tracker for the amout of fates completed people would be fine with it

    when luck is used right in a game it works beautifully i still find myself waiting for that venture to be done and going oh what did i get this time something good omg wow or meh and then i send em back out again wondering what ill get the next time

    remove the luck from the atmas and the problem is fixed the qq would be alot less people will get it done either really fast or done slowly at there own pace but it will get done

    remember the animus arent ment to be the only weapons in the game they are ment to be a weapon that can compete with raiders weapons and primal ex weapons so as future content is released one group of people dont have a large advantage over the other groups just cause they cant run the content or do not wish to run it
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  5. #105
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    Raucent Valefor
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    Exactly, Luck in things like Quick Ventures is great, Luck in something like atmas leads to /headdesk frustration, As mentioned if SE had said do 500 Fates per zone, ppl would grumble but do it knowing where they stand, being able to take a break when they want
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  6. #106
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    Gulvak Garamonde
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    Coeurl
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    Yeah I don't know what to say linear grinds always were some of the most boring to me, unless it was something like farming a mat where I could find spawns and learn how to do it slightly faster over time, find the best places, etc, etc. I never had an issue with rare drops and frankly found it better to not track my progress as it just was discouraging. Honestly I think you can do the Atma farm at your own pace, the problem is people aren't doing that instead they're trying to do what is weeks if not more of a farm in a matter of days.
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  7. #107
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    Shorty Themagnifecent
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    so far i personally am at 3 atmas just got my 3rd bout 5 mins ago i so far i am noticing a bit of a pattern with them my first one was central shroud took 8 hrs to get it to drop and god knows how many fates in that time second was south thanalan took bout 4-5 hrs to drop and last was uper la noscea took maybe 10-15 fates and droped

    kinda comming to the conclusion that the more remote the region less luck plays its part as kinda seems the dice roll is higher in starter areas then it is in say outskirt areas just my observation so far still early to draw any resonable conclusion but seems more they want the high levels to farm longer in starter zones then others
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  8. #108
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    Shorty Themagnifecent
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    the problem im seeing with your statement is rare drop games like eq wow ect make rare drops where it has a drop chance of say 0.0001 percent chance where the atmas dont have a drop chance there is no hey it will drop x times out of x number of fates its random that is where the problem comes in not the grind its the possibity of never seeing it drop ever and there will be people who have that problem and those people shouldnt be caught up on a quest for gear progression just cause the dice dont roll in there favor where if they did x number of fates they would check off that zone and move on to the next raid gear is done the same way farm boss x times till piece drops and progress as you gear your team now if we took raid gear and said hey lets make you kill the boss but it may drop gear we dont know when but someday it will people would be pissed and there would be so much qq over it this is no different this is a raid weapon for non raiders
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  9. #109
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by losttemplar6 View Post
    so far i personally am at 3 atmas just got my 3rd bout 5 mins ago i so far i am noticing a bit of a pattern with them my first one was central shroud took 8 hrs to get it to drop and god knows how many fates in that time second was south thanalan took bout 4-5 hrs to drop and last was uper la noscea took maybe 10-15 fates and droped

    kinda comming to the conclusion that the more remote the region less luck plays its part as kinda seems the dice roll is higher in starter areas then it is in say outskirt areas just my observation so far still early to draw any resonable conclusion but seems more they want the high levels to farm longer in starter zones then others
    Not sure about that one. My first Atma was in the North Shroud in an area made for people around level 30.
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  10. #110
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 70
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