Community Ignored about Atma?

[Nova_Dresden]

I mean how much time exactly did the FATEs taken anyway? I always see complaints on number of FATEs or time spent farming, but no one ever mentions both. It's almost like they go out of their way to pick the number that sounds worse.

The general assumption is 5-10 minutes a FATE, then add in travel time between them. I use ~15 minutes as an average between the two.

Well it's still possible! I mean we've got no data on the drop rate but if it's 1 in 100 there isn't some statistical point where it's impossible to keep getting rolls of 1-99.

Technically video games are programmed in hexadecimal usually in increments of 256, so 0-100 is actually 0-255 (or 0-FF if you want specifics.) Technically it IS impossible for an item to never drop unless the rate is set to 0. It is entirely possible for an individual player to never see a drop.

I'm not statistics expert but I'm referencing a post about Rivendare's Deathcharger that I always found informative(included below). Honestly at your point of unluck maybe you should try some theories the Japanese have about when drop rates are higher http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...theory/cgrg28m either that or go try to get your curse lifted. I mean at 300+ attempts I'd just have to ask if you're accidentally equipping an Allagan weapon or something like that, but I'd definitely switch up where you're farming unless you're 11/12 of course.

Statistically speaking you need very large samples to accurately determine drop rates unless we're actually told what it is. If 100 people report in on a drop and one person received it, then you might assume a 1% drop rate with 1/100. If another 100 report in with 0 drops then the % drops to 1/200, or 0.5%. Another 100 report in and 3 people got the drop then it becomes 4/300, or 1.333%. It's entirely possible for some players to always return a 0 on their drop rates even with others still getting theirs. It's why some people are still farming the Deathcharger on WoW and some players have been religiously running Molten Core since Vanilla and don't have Thunderfury. A completely random drop with such a low drop rate is just that: completely random. Some players have an Atma, some have 2, and some are working on #3. And then several players are still farming their Atma or even trying to just get their first one.

You know, as I read these comments and not being a fan of the atma myself, I do have to ask. Why is it people get exactly what they are asking, begging and complaining for, then complain about getting what they begged for?

Because not everyone begged for it. Typically players don't post much when they're content and tend to assume a "silent majority" that everyone is actually with them. Either their needs/wants are met and most stop posting, or their needs are not met and they quit the game and stop posting.