Community Ignored about Atma?

[Empressia]

Why is the community being ignored about the ATMA drop rates? There working as attended why not come out and say guys they work like we want? They just trying to sweep us under the rug? Whats going on? I getting Dajvu ... this is like Guildwars 2 All over again. There a reason I never buy another Arena.net product


up to 124 fates in North Shroud over 3 days no drop... getting extremely frustrated and tired.

FAIL TROLL -10/10 cuz everyone who really played GW2 knew failing a DE or FATE equivalent rather than finishing it gave u MOAR rewards and thus peeps abused farming em, unless u stated that failing a FATE here instantly gives u atma hence MOAR rewards and peeps have all relic atmas for free!

[Worm]

Oh boy. You are completely wrong with this example. DMD was fun and challenging, ATMA has nothing to do with this.

Oh okay, objectively state what made DMD fun. Explain it in such a way where no person in the world could get frustrated with it and declare it 'unfun'. Grinding (or the lottery) may not be intrinsically fun, but getting your drop (or winning money) is fun. The idea that the second a game frustrates one person or some person stops enjoying it that it's now objectively unfun and must be changed, is ludicrous. It's just a crazy way to think, that the second you don't enjoy something it ought to be removed or modified so you personally can begin to enjoy it.

If you knew someone who played DMD difficulty and got upset, but just kept playing it, bitterly making himself hate the game slowly, what would you think? What would you tell that person? Would you tell him to complain on forums, hold candlelight vigils, rabble-rouse more and more and more until there was a new version release where the difficulty of DMD was scaled down? Or would you just suggest he drop the difficulty or stop playing? That's how I view all these threads, personally. People are making themselves hate the game doing content they dislike, they're grinding for longer than they are emotionally able to do and getting upset. They feel desperately wronged because they couldn't just traipse in and get a low drop rate item in a matter of minutes.

You'll have these drops eventually, just don't burn yourself out and always farm with groups. Or alternatively just wait for it to get nerfed.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

As I stated before, waiting for things to get nerfed is not how content should be done. You're basically telling people to go get themselves locked out for several months until a nerf arrives.

[LilithPaige]

The rng isn't that bad. I'll admit I only have one atma (I got it soloing a few random fates in North shroud as I ran by on my way to do other things). But if you really grind the fates then you'll get your atma. 40 hours a week? Just do a few fates per day, or per week, and you can get yourself an atma stress free.

337 FATEs in Central Shroud so far and still no ATMA... not sure about your theory

[Lionhand]

Even if the devs respond, people will never be contented. You just can't please everyone so its useless. Im sure some will not rest from complaining even after SE says it is as it was intended to be. I got my 12 atmas already and is on my 3rd book now simply just by trying in between DF runs and doing dailies.

[Worm]

337 FATEs in Central Shroud so far and still no ATMA... not sure about your theory

I don't know how you're so unlucky, but assuming because it took you 338 FATEs over a weekend marathon session that it would take you the same amount if you were doing a few fates per day is just completely wrong. I mean how much time exactly did the FATEs taken anyway? I always see complaints on number of FATEs or time spent farming, but no one ever mentions both. It's almost like they go out of their way to pick the number that sounds worse.

As I stated before, waiting for things to get nerfed is not how content should be done. You're basically telling people to go get themselves locked out for several months until a nerf arrives.

I'm telling people who hate grinding to not do it, yeah. So what? People obviously are getting very upset and bothered by this grind so they should stop and wait for it to be nerfed as opposed to demanding a nerf now. Why would you want to waste the limited time you have on this planet? It's like people are in a jail cell bitterly carving every hour into the jail wall with their broken and bleeding finger nails, except the door is open the only thing keeping you there is your preoccupation with counting your time spent in the cell. Calling this "content" is a bit much. You're locked out of one item, an item which will be easier at some unknown point in time, an item which has a comparable items that are also obtainable through different means. I am literally farming this out because I like the way it looks, I've done harder farms for vanity gear in the past and I'll do harder ones in the future. If you hate farming don't do this grind. A game having RNG is not some personal attack on you, the contrary actually you guys are attacking RNG because you're preoccupied with what you're unable to get. Just let it go.

[LilithPaige]

I don't know how you're so unlucky, but assuming because it took you 338 FATEs over a weekend marathon session that it would take you the same amount if you were doing a few fates per day is just completely wrong. I mean how much time exactly did the FATEs taken anyway? I always see complaints on number of FATEs or time spent farming, but no one ever mentions both. It's almost like they go out of their way to pick the number that sounds worse.

That is 338 FATES over the course of two weeks and STILL no ATMA, which means that i have to do more.... This is just ONE atma in one area.... It shouldn't be possible to do that many FATES in one area and still not receive an ATMA, I know I am unlucky, but still.

[Worm]

Well it's still possible! I mean we've got no data on the drop rate but if it's 1 in 100 there isn't some statistical point where it's impossible to keep getting rolls of 1-99. I'm not statistics expert but I'm referencing a post about Rivendare's Deathcharger that I always found informative(included below). Honestly at your point of unluck maybe you should try some theories the Japanese have about when drop rates are higher http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...theory/cgrg28m either that or go try to get your curse lifted. I mean at 300+ attempts I'd just have to ask if you're accidentally equipping an Allagan weapon or something like that, but I'd definitely switch up where you're farming unless you're 11/12 of course.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=13335#comments:id=788507
A 1% drop rate means that each individual Baron kill, you have a 1 in 100 chance to see the mount drop. In other words, whether it's your first try or your 500th try, your chance to see it on that kill is 1%.

If you want to experiment with the drop rate before you start farming the mount, pick a number between 1 and 100 and /roll until you get it.

Killing Baron 100 times gives you a 63.4% chance to get the mount.

You have a...

...25% chance to see it drop within 28 runs.
...33% chance to see it drop within 40 runs.
...50% chance to see it drop within 68 runs.
...66% chance to see it drop within 109 runs.
...75% chance to see it drop within 138 runs.
...99% chance to see it drop within 458 runs.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

I'd finally put in to this whole atma bashing and whatnot.

Frankly, I'm fine with it. I don't even have an atma weapon and I'm fine with the system the way it is. I've been at it since their induction, but lately I just go for FATEs on some downtime between doing dailies for tomes. So far I'm at 4/12.

The people who are saying "go do something else" are both right AND wrong. Wrong, because the items are part of the "story-drive" questlines. Right because you CAN get weapons currently comparable or even better than atmas. The problem I see with doing the latter is the current competency of playerbase. cont. …

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

Last night, I DF spammed Titan HM because I want to get the shield. One particular run, we had to use a 50% buff from echo, and even then a lot of people died. Which I just don't understand HOW that happens.

So yes, it seems that we got our relic weapons all too easy, so making the difficulty level of obtaining atma/animus all that much harder seems justifiable.