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    Player Ilitsa's Avatar
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by hotroderx View Post
    Some of the people on this forum are exactly whats wrong with the world as a hole. "Everything is fine" until its what I want then its not ok. I see mixed opinions I say its most likey 75% upset 20% saying deal with it and 5% saying deal with or leave. None of this is ok for the game. Its all extremely unhealthy we all need each other at the end of the day. People leave the game lets say 2 or 3k people world wide leave... Thats a hit to the player base. Next month they release something else and another few 1k people leave. Slowly the numbers drop SE drops support and moves on. This is why as a community we need to ban together instead of looking after just our own interest.I finshed my Atma and thats still my opinion its broken and a unfair system.

    There's also the small minority that are like me, acknowledge that there IS an issue with this system, but are unsure of a good alternative, so deal with it and buckle down. I'm honestly in the middle ground of the entire thing, I have terrible luck generally, but that's not going to dissuade me from getting what I want, if that takes a year, it takes a year, if it takes a month, then so be it, I want the Animus weapon, so I will get it, no matter if they "fix" the drop rate, or it's left as is, I have a high determination stat =p
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    Bikou Densu
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
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    I am worried this is going to hurt the game =/ seen 2 other community's torn in half and then next thing you know games f2p with p2w in the future. I like FF reminds me of vanilla wow and I am kinda tired of switching games =p.

    I can think of three viable ways to fix this
    1. increase the drop rate chance per fate tell one drops.. maybe make it a guaranteed drop after 200 fates that's still a lot of work to put into a single area but it gives you a goal.
    2. increase the over all drop rate of it to 20-30% thats still not really fixing the core issue of unlucky is unlucky.
    3. do away with the RNG completely and make it so you have to complete X number of fates
    Keep hammering away it will happen =).
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    Psyreal Galka
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    ATMA and the community being ignored made me suspend the auto renewal of my account.
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    Sarlazzar Beinharlt
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by hotroderx View Post
    Why is the community being ignored about the ATMA drop rates? There working as attended why not come out and say guys they work like we want? They just trying to sweep us under the rug? Whats going on? I getting Dajvu ... this is like Guildwars 2 All over again. There a reason I never buy another Arena.net product


    up to 124 fates in North Shroud over 3 days no drop... getting extremely frustrated and tired.
    This is not the time back when SE is desperate to keep people playing this game anymore, players are now addicted to the game, they start to do whatever they want, no more listening to player base
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarlazzar View Post
    This is not the time back when SE is desperate to keep people playing this game anymore, players are now addicted to the game, they start to do whatever they want, no more listening to player base
    They only listened to the JP mainly.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

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    Ezekial Ine
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    People are stupid. Most people looked at Relic weapons as if they were supposed to be as amazing like they were originally in FFXI. I thought the path to get a Zenith Relic was fine. Took 3 weeks of myth capping to upgrade, and the path before that was pretty long. You could burn through it all easily now, but when they first came out, Garuda was tough for people, and Titan was very hard, and many were stuck on it for weeks before getting him down. The old relic path contained 2 unique fights, and wasn't tedious or painful to actually do.

    The Animus or Trials of the Brave isn't anything like that. You get RNG low level content for like 12 to unknown amount of hours. followed by AT MINIMUM of 36 tedious hours of farming Mythology tombs with a very VERY efficient group taking in to account an average of 50 myth tombs per 6 minutes, with 2 minutes of slack time every run.

    The 9 books that can take about 4-5 hours per to complete depending on luck with fate pops etc. seeing you have to kill 900 mob, complete 27 fates, do 27 leves, and run 27 dungeons to complete that part.

    I don't actually mind the Books. I think you should be able to do books without having to farm tombs, but yeah, that would just make to much sense.

    I wonder how many people have actually quit over this quest. I know lots of my free company did just because they didn't want to play this game of *that* was going to be how content was done.
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    VargasVermillion's Avatar
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    Val Vermillion
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I just hate FATEs, I want FATEs to stop being relevant.
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    After some thought, I agree that it needs to be tweaked. Just thinking about a quest in an MMO being completely luck based is not quite right. For some who put in a couple hours a day and get drops, good for you. But, what about those who do the same and get no drop. Multiply that by a few hundred and subscriptions start dropping because people get frustrated. I personally enjoy seeing a lot of folks logged on and playing.

    The first relic quest set a specific course of action to complete. A goal-line where a player can chose to progress how they see fit. Whether that is do everything as quickly as possible or I will complete this playing a few hours a day and should be done in a couple months or so. If no changes happen at all, one could grind 2-3 hours a day for months and still not get close. With that said, good luck to you all!
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    Shuri Aegis
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Oh no, you grinded for 3 days and didn't get a drop? You're lucky XIV isn't like XI...
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    Gotta Catch 'Em All
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    Zeez Aeternus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shuri View Post
    Oh no, you grinded for 3 days and didn't get a drop? You're lucky XIV isn't like XI...
    You know whats funny is that I played FFXI for years and things took a lot longer to earn for EVERYONE there was also more teamwork and leveling was a lot harder. This game is not FFXI its FFIV so don't compare them. This thread is a plea that something be done about the RNG of the drops. I understand that if you were the lucky who got them all in a week your saying how the quest isn't that bad and that others should suck it up but it wasn't bad for you.

    For everyone who has the easy way with RNG there are the people who are just flat out unlucky. You can say that RNG haunts everyone but this isn't 1 drop it's 12 drops needed and while there is a very little chance that each one of them takes you 12 hours or more each there is STILL THAT CHANCE and THAT is the problem.
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