Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
Ironically, this is actually what version 1.0 seemed to be hinting at when you first encountered Ifrit during the Path of the Twelve main scenario quest 'Lord Errant' - in the cell in Zan'rak just prior to being taken to the Bowl of Embers, the player encounters two npcs, a lalafell girl in a robe and coif curled up in a foetal position (named 'Cloudy-Eyed Prisoner') and an elezen male in a doublet reclining back and named 'Emotionless Prisoner'. Talking to the two revealed they were already tempered (the elezen specifically mentions "being tempered in the flames" like he was), and when the player and their Path Companion are then taken to the Bowl of Embers, those two prisoners are included with them, and then apparently tempered again.

This seemed to suggest that tempering was an imperfect process that had to be continuously performed in order to keep tempered under a Primal's thrall, but all the information shown in ARR seemed to retcon this, with it mentioned time and time again that tempering was permanent and that a tempered was pretty much "better dead" than to be allowed to live. If the info revealed during the Second Coil is correct, this would actually ring true with the events with Ifrit during 'Lord Errant' in 1.0.
So are you suggesting all those tempered were executed needlessly?