SCH macro troubles

[Wolf_Gang]

Why are you guys pairing Fey Illumination and Rouse?

That's overkill for a regen. Whispering dawn is only 21s and almost all of that will over heal.

[Manuka]

Why are you guys pairing Fey Illumination and Rouse?

That's overkill for a regen. Whispering dawn is only 21s and almost all of that will over heal.

Because it's the most efficient use of those CDs. The whole purpose of AoE HoT's is to top a party off after heavy raid wide-damage the quickest and cheapest means possible while continuing to focus the tank. While Rouse, Fey Illumination and Whispering Dawn is pretty overkill the HoT is so potent that your fellow WHM can completely forgo using Medica/2 or Cure 3 after heavy party damage which in turn conserves their MP pool at the cost of a relatively short 2min CD (compared to their 3min SoS). Like, if you're using FI to simply boost overall heals by 20% it's all gonna go to waste over-healing the tank, which for a 2min CD is fairly pointless. In that situation you're better off dropping Sacred Soil and Virus/Eye for an Eye to reduce overall damage.

[Wolf_Gang]

Because it's the most efficient use of those CDs. The whole purpose of AoE HoT's is to top a party off after heavy raid wide-damage the quickest and cheapest means possible while continuing to focus the tank. While Rouse, Fey Illumination and Whispering Dawn is pretty overkill the HoT is so potent that your fellow WHM can completely forgo using Medica/2 or Cure 3

Efficient? How? I can't think of any situation pre-coil2 that requires that strong of a HoT that doesn't immediately go to waste within 5 secs of casting it. Rouse + WD alone will produce the same result every single time.
The reality is, your partner WHM will continue to cast Medica II oblivious to whatever fancy buff you cast further adding to the over healing.

I much rather use Fey illum independently in situations where WD is not up. e.g. buffing a WHM's HoTs because yours are down.

[EvianEverdeen]

Why are you guys pairing Fey Illumination and Rouse?

That's overkill for a regen. Whispering dawn is only 21s and almost all of that will over heal.

I have my Fey Illumination tied to a Rouse Macro and Whispering Dawn by itself. To answer your question, the only time I'd ever really need to even hit Whispering Dawn is in a time when I will actually need it. In that case, I definitely want the over heal. It also conserves MP if you get topped off quick and makes Titan's Weight of the Land and plumes a joke.

[Kirinichibon]

Why are you guys pairing Fey Illumination and Rouse?

That's overkill for a regen. Whispering dawn is only 21s and almost all of that will over heal.

When I use Eos, I use her just for this. Overheal for no mana and all threat on the fairy with a pretty short cooldown - no problem!

[Manuka]

Efficient? How? I can't think of any situation pre-coil2 that requires that strong of a HoT that doesn't immediately go to waste within 5 secs of casting it. Rouse + WD alone will produce the same result every single time.
The reality is, your partner WHM will continue to cast Medica II oblivious to whatever fancy buff you cast further adding to the over healing.

I much rather use Fey illum independently in situations where WD is not up. e.g. buffing a WHM's HoTs because yours are down.

You're overlooking the fact that both Tanks continue to benefit greatly from the empowered HoT for its whole duration. Lets say we ignore the party wide aspect and look at from a single target perspective; During Fey Illuminations 20sec duration Eos's Embrace will only heal an additional 300-400 health while a Rouse/FI/WD heals that much in a single tick. Granted in this example the most efficient route would be to cast Fey Illumination and pop Rouse/WD during the last 5 secs of FI to get the best bang for your buck but that's besides the point. It's just that on a pure HPS basis if you cast FI and both Rouse/WD are off CD there really isn't much reason not to use them, even if only two members of your team will feel the full benefit, simply because those two skills are on such a low CD. Also don't get me wrong, if R/WD is on CD and suddenly things go terribly wrong and you need that extra oomph then you should cast Fey Illumination, no question.
Another big reason why I usually pair Rouse and FI together, and this doesn't apply to everyone, is that I try to actively DPS as often as I can and the 20sec duration is perfect without worrying about that Dragoon that attracts damage like a magnet. Just plop a Sacred Soil, go cleric and lay down all your dots and start casting Shadow Flare which always finishes casting about a sec after SS ends and if you're quick you can sneak in a buffed adlo to top it off. Feels great lol

Also yeah you're right, more often than not in pugs the Whm will continue to cast Medica 2 even if it isn't needed but that's more of a failure of communication than anything else.

[MrDiezel]

I must say, this is the first time I've ever heard of a HoT being too strong. lol. Though I dont use FI, WD, and Rouse all at the same time. I use WD and Rouse together (conveniently same cooldown times) and FI when I need some stronger heals. Best example: 4 stack Cad