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    Player
    Flickalado's Avatar
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    Lake Hylia, Hyrule
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    Flash Delirium
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 51

    Alternative to Mirror of the Whorl...

    Okay first time posting a thread, but I've downed Leviathan at least 40+ times now and haven't seen the mirror drop once. I know that I'm one of the most unlucky RNG rollers so rolling against 8 others when I do finally see it, I probably will end up not getting getting the highest roll. It'd be nice if every run dropped something that everyone gets, and once you have enough of them, they can be exchanged for a mirror. (I'm talking 100 runs of Leviathan to have enough, nothing too easy). The mirror can still drop (imagine doing 99 runs for it to finally drop xD), but it offers an alternative for those who are just plain unlucky. It'd just feel nice to know I'm actually working towards something, rather than joining a "lottery" duty....
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    Cherie's Avatar
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    Cherry Fortuna
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 70
    I've run about as many, and I saw the mirror drop once.... and... I rolled a... 2

    I've also seen the water pony drop.... and... I rolled a 12...

    I do have like every weapon though.... I guess that is a plus right? Unfortunately, I am missing the pally sword, which is one I would actually use for my 2nd most used class, which is also the class I mostly run it on. I do have my bard bow, which I raid as, so i can't complain.
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    Last edited by Cherie; 04-09-2014 at 12:40 AM.

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    Kyra Liam
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I have about 70 kills myself and 6 weapon already gotten in greed options. Havent seen a single mirror or pony. They definetly need to do something about it. I already saw eespons going nowhere cuz everyone has them.
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    Lara Felix
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    In 1.0 they had totems that dropped in place/along side of weapons and once you got...8 I think, you could exchange them for a weapon of your choice from that fight. I still have some...anyway, Yoshi stated they don't have plans to provide a use for these totems yet so, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

    Idk why, but this game is all about RNG. You either get something or you don't. No consolation prizes.
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    So many wise players on these forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45
    You pay for the game. You pay for a monthly fee. Then you pay to not play the game. Logic.
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    I guess when people don't agree with you, they instantly become an elitist.

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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    The mirror gives you an i100 weapon. The drop rate therefore needs to be such that the work required is close to that of farming the 2 and a half weeks of soldiery needed for the i100 weathered weps or to complete your i100 relic animus. In 2-3 weeks of on and off farming I'm sure you'll see and win roll on at least 1 mirror. In the meantime you build animus for your main and farm soldiery for a wep for a 3rd class.
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    The mirror gives you an i100 weapon. The drop rate therefore needs to be such that the work required is close to that of farming the 2 and a half weeks of soldiery needed for the i100 weathered weps or to complete your i100 relic animus. In 2-3 weeks of on and off farming I'm sure you'll see and win roll on at least 1 mirror. In the meantime you build animus for your main and farm soldiery for a wep for a 3rd class.

    Trouble is though that kind of grind can burn people out and result in them quitting, its kind of sad that we are seeing the same mistake they made in 1.0 with primals and RNG all over again.

    I agree that it should take time to upgrade the weapon but it goes back to people wanting to see progress and not RNG kicking them in the face repeatedly.
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Trouble is though that kind of grind can burn people out and result in them quitting, its kind of sad that we are seeing the same mistake they made in 1.0 with primals and RNG all over again.

    I agree that it should take time to upgrade the weapon but it goes back to people wanting to see progress and not RNG kicking them in the face repeatedly.
    That's the thing, you see actual progress when working on Animus, so only 1 part of the quest is "bad", the rest is exactly what people wanted. As said, this is a new patch, so the drop rate on Leviathan is obviously bad to keep us busy lol.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 60
    The alternative is just removing the wave weps and making Levi drop the Tidals. i100 weps for everyone! NO. No one is saying grind Levi every day for 6 hours. Everyone wants everything NOW. No patience whatsoever.
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Yeah it's pretty stupid. Levi should drop a "shard of the mirror" with a 10% drop rate, and collect 10 = mirror of the whorl, rather than the current ridiculous 1% or whatever it is.
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    The alternative is just removing the wave weps and making Levi drop the Tidals. i100 weps for everyone! NO. No one is saying grind Levi every day for 6 hours. Everyone wants everything NOW. No patience whatsoever.
    Quite honestly, I think it's because people were complaining if Leviathan Hard dropped the wave weapons because let's be honest, people wold be crying bloody murder if it did, so chances are they moved the wave weapons to Leviathan extreme alon with the upgrade item, when originally the ex was probably going to be an item farm since for all intents and purposes, Leviathan ex is "optional" at this point when you look at solidary and high allagan.
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