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  1. #81
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    Calyanare Vendaurel
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Yep, I've seen this too. Yesterday a DRG went AFK in one of the pools when the second boss was at about 10%, died. He was raised twice, he never accepted or released. The rest of the group kept going and we 3-manned to the last boss (which took twice as long as normal, being down a DPS) before finally kicking him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    I would never vote to kick someone who asks to be kicked. I rather 3 man the rest of the dungeon. Problem with that is you can't 3 man the last boss if it's a healer that isn't playing nice.
    I wouldn't either, but if their way of "asking to be kicked" entails going AFK, you don't have much choice. 3-manning the last boss when your only DPS is a BRD (no LB) isn't my idea of fun, and that's always how it seems to go (I'm usually the healer, and if I want to do something nonstandard like dropping a dungeon halfway, I do it with people from FC or LS).

    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    Yeah this right here. As a healer I really wish tanks and DPS would understand that this is a tricky part, the goblin glider's Glider Rush, ignores hate and attacks a random party member, and hits hard. As a SCH this can completely overwhelm as our only big heal is Lustrate, and it's single target, if aether flow is on cool down, it can easily cause a wipe.
    This. I'm just waiting for the day (coming soon, I'm sure) when half the party drops when I pop in on SCH, just because the dungeon will take 5 pulls instead of 3.
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    Last edited by Calyanare; 04-10-2014 at 04:24 PM.

  2. #82
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    Lucke's Avatar
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    Lucke Arrayo
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I wonder if SE could implement a system that flags people you kick. So like the people asks to be kicked, you kick them, that kick shows up on SE's end, they investigate it, and punish them for skirting around intended use of the system. Then, people wouldn't be so keen on "Kick me please".

    Kicking people is supposed to be for harassment, afk, etc. Although, I think keeping the group hostage with "Kick me please" is kinda harassment if you ask me, and kicking them just perpetuates the cycle ugh.
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  3. #83
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    Ezekial Ine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    I wonder if SE could implement a system that flags people you kick. So like the people asks to be kicked, you kick them, that kick shows up on SE's end, they investigate it, and punish them for skirting around intended use of the system. Then, people wouldn't be so keen on "Kick me please".

    Kicking people is supposed to be for harassment, afk, etc. Although, I think keeping the group hostage with "Kick me please" is kinda harassment if you ask me, and kicking them just perpetuates the cycle ugh.
    Just contact a GM if it bugs you so much.
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  4. #84
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    Altimis Vaara
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    Raiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    Yeah this right here. As a healer I really wish tanks and DPS would understand that this is a tricky part, the goblin glider's Glider Rush, ignores hate and attacks a random party member, and hits hard. As a SCH this can completely overwhelm as our only big heal is Lustrate, and it's single target, if aether flow is on cool down, it can easily cause a wipe.

    Even when I am doing well in a speed run, this room is almost always a wipe. But the times I'm doing s speed run and here the tank goes one or two packs at a time it goes quick... gee almost like trying to pull the whole room ISN'T the fastest way to do it.
    I'm guessing these type of mobs were implemented to try and stop speed running being a thing. As a fairly new WHM with around 3,500 HP, the big pack of gliders just after first boss can either kill me outright if they all target me, or leave me stun-locked while the tank is taking a lot of damage.
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  5. #85
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Aaaaaand this is why making the last bosses drop only soldiery tomes was a stupid idea.
    Report for harassement the players who stops play when go to last boss, is a better idea. If they want farming, they must go PF and do a group at the scope, instead hindering the gameplay of anyone wants actually make the dungeon.
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    This just happened to me when I did duty roulette, It was in copperbell hm though and one dps left instantly after the 2nd boss. Even though we managed to get another dps from one of the players FC I reported him cause I don't think it's fair to other players. I hope they take his mythstones or something! That would teach him!
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  7. #87
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    Sakura Ephemera
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    Brynhildr
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    Archer Lv 60
    For gliders: Divine Seal Medica II on WHM ; Whispering Dawn on SCH. Shouldn't have any problems. WHM is obviously easier/faster with holy.
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  8. #88
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    Fhorte Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    This just happened to me when I did duty roulette, It was in copperbell hm though and one dps left instantly after the 2nd boss. Even though we managed to get another dps from one of the players FC I reported him cause I don't think it's fair to other players. I hope they take his mythstones or something! That would teach him!
    That's not against the rules. As long as they are taking the penalty, and not asking to get kicked to get around it.
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  9. #89
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    Blackcanary's Avatar
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    Rogue Fuki
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    Shiva
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    This happend to me today the Tank left said he had to go to work. Before we got to last boss.
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    Yeah this right here. As a healer I really wish tanks and DPS would understand that this is a tricky part, the goblin glider's Glider Rush, ignores hate and attacks a random party member, and hits hard. As a SCH this can completely overwhelm as our only big heal is Lustrate, and it's single target, if aether flow is on cool down, it can easily cause a wipe.

    Even when I am doing well in a speed run, this room is almost always a wipe. But the times I'm doing s speed run and here the tank goes one or two packs at a time it goes quick... gee almost like trying to pull the whole room ISN'T the fastest way to do it.
    It's the worst part about it, because its as if Tanks don't even appreciate or understand, half the people I see who do this can't even keep hate properly so it all goes to S*** fast.

    I've seen Tanks blame the DPS because they didn't do enough damage, seen tanks blame the DPS for doing too much damage and pulling before they got enough hate, I have seen tanks blame healers for not being quick enough, yet rarely do I see them accepting the fault lies with them.

    Hopefully SE will put in something to deter speedruns because it brings out the worst in the player base, kind of like what happened with AK back at launch.
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