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  1. #201
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Crowe Valtyr
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyar View Post
    I don't mind speedruns if/when it's announced and everyone has decent gear. (Really, I have a friend who's undergeared for that kind of pull and it just can't be done with limited DPS like that despite how awesome I am as a healer.)

    The problem is, people are assuming that everyone is intending to get through content as fast as possible. Hell, the final Castrum run was completely screwed up for me story-wise because people didn't wait for others who were watching the cinematics.
    Same here, I've personally only done Brayflox HM a couple times since the patch, but I have no problems speedrunning things. I would just like to know ahead of time that I'll be speedrunning. I honestly hate the attitude of people who think everyone wants to gogogo through runs and thus don't even have the courtesy to say "hey I'll be speedrunning this". Even just a warning of your intentions would be preferable to no mention at all of what you plan to do.

    To all tanks who assume everyone is like you and wants to speed through a run as fast as possible by aggroing EVERYTHING between the entrance and the boss, please stop. Seriously, stop.
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  2. #202
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    Ricky's Avatar
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    Character
    Azran Hayat
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Quinburger View Post
    I think that if you're capped on soldiery for the week, the soldiery drops should be converted to myth. Problem solved, people will want to kill the last boss.
    But that would cut down the time sink levels of getting an Animus and we would be forced to realize how ham fisted their attempts to drag out content are! Gotta love how it took 9 runs to cap your myths in 2.1 but randomly takes 10 runs to cap soldiery now
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  3. #203
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    Pyretta_Blaze's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Hazel Meade
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 51
    As a healer I've been unprepared for the tank just bolting off without even saying hi. I always buff as soon as the circle disappears but he was gone before I could SS him. At least the time he died he didn't say anything and just ran back. Personally I would think you would pull a pack of mobs before deciding if the party could handle speedrunning it or even wants to. I can heal through it but I dont really care to.

    I think anything other than a normal clear should be prebuilt party or PF, DF the only thing you should assume is all of you want to clear the content.
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  4. #204
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    BreathlessTao's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Shuu Naranol
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Agree with OP - I don't mind myth farming / speedruns, but please use the Party Finder for that. It's there for a reason. If you go via Duty Finder, the very least you should do is ask if everyone is ok with it. But do not expect a "first-two-bosses-only-myth-farm" default there, you never know who's (fairly) new to the place, who's undergeared, who's there via Duty Roulette... and definitely don't just run off without even saying hi.
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  5. #205
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    Hakaze Kusaribe
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Tanks that just run off without a single word and aggros way more than I can heal, I just let them die and wait at the start until it gets thru their thick heads. I even go as far as telling them that they should check to see if the group wants or can handle what they want to do, but if they are NOT going to pay attention, I'll just wait for them to get themselves killed.

    In any case, what is this obession with speed runs anyways? It is NOT I can NOT appreciate a run done quickly and smoothly, but to demand everyone play like that on the Duty Finder is just unreasonable. There are all sorts of players in all sorts of situations. Whatever happened to being friendly and seeing what the rest of the party wanted to do? I've seen good tanks ask what the party wants or can/cannot handle. But I've also seem the jerks zoom off, and sometimes it is not even the tanks but DPS egging on the tanks and harassing them.

    Bottomline, use the party finder and spec what you want to do there. On the Duty Finder try to communicate? Is this really that hard? People can't type or something? Get a bluetooth keyboard for your PS3.....?
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    Last edited by Foo01; 04-16-2014 at 04:20 AM.

  6. #206
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    L-D-Omlette's Avatar
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    Character
    Leona Thane
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyar View Post
    It allowed for sup[a]r power leveling.
    If that's all then I am not sure how what I mentioned could be used for that...
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  7. #207
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    KingOfAbyss's Avatar
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    Abyss King
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gokuhan View Post
    Sort of on topic, I am so sick of people that try to force speed runs on others, especially tanks.

    It happens all the time.
    The other day, as we were just starting to get the hang of this dungeon, a WHM decided to act like the leader, and forced me (Tank) and my GF (SMN) to run faster. Albeit it's good for practice, I intend to savour the journey.. it was not fun at all.

    I don't care if I am not done with my Atma/Myth grind. I am enjoying this game, just got into Coil T1-2-3-4 yesterday, and the graphics are nice! Everyone doing their jobs, others communicating and explaining, we died on 4, tried again, lost, but gained in Fun factor, can't wait tonight!

    So be it Tank/Healer/DPS/(Other class that could break this trinity), Rude peeps and instant gratification generation takes the fun out of a game with future potential..
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    Last edited by KingOfAbyss; 04-16-2014 at 04:55 AM.

  8. #208
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    Zakalwe's Avatar
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    Character
    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 51
    I think the Atma book process, with its rediculous myth tome grind, has made speed running much more common. I don't really enjoy SRs that much. I prefer taking time to enjoy a run and chat with party members. But to hit that 1500 for the next book I find I typically devote a day a week to it. But only with FC mates or through PF.
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    Last edited by Zakalwe; 04-16-2014 at 05:23 AM.

  9. #209
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    Livilda's Avatar
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    The Last Dregs
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    Character
    Fiona Sullivan
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I troll these types so hard as a tank. If anyone asks to be kicked, I sit down, announce that if you don't want to clear to the end, I am going to AFK and not vote on any kicks, thereby failing them all and keeping everyone there until the the timer runs out.

    That usually gets them going. Sometimes the others even play along with it. I got lucky - the one time I was called on my bluff was when I was with an RL healer friend. We went and played some Brawl.
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  10. #210
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Adore Mi
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    I'm all down for speed runs in Brayflox, have done them many times as white mage, scholar and bard. But, to all the tanks out there that think a successful speed run means pulling EVERY single enemy up to the first boss, get a clue.

    I'm sure there is a tiny number of healers out there that can possibly handle that much, but most cannot, so stop.

    At this point, I will absolutely do normal speed runs, but am done running with any tank that tries to pull this. Happened again last night, luckily I politely said I'm going to bow out, and he willingly offered up to pull less.
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