Thread: 2.21 Notes

Certain people will die at T5 even with 50% echo and probably many won't feel any difference with this 10% echo and knights nerf at T4.

Well yeah. The only thing echo will help for are stat-checks. It won't do squat for skill-checks.

Originally Posted by Zaels

Well yeah. The only thing echo will help for are stat-checks. It won't do squat for skill-checks.

It does start to mean you get more HP to absorb mistakes, more healing and MP to recover from them and more DPS to succeed despite deaths. So while it doesn't eliminate all skill checks, it does make surviving despite failures and recovering from deaths more feasible.

Originally Posted by Mithent

It does start to mean you get more HP to absorb mistakes, more healing and MP to recover from them and more DPS to succeed despite deaths. So while it doesn't eliminate all skill checks, it does make surviving despite failures and recovering from deaths more feasible.

Which is a good thing. Even at 25%, you still will need to perform well. You will have more room for error, be afforded more mistakes and stuff, but 25% to healing, defense and damage isn't going to make it so you can walk in an win blindly. I don't know why people get mad at nerfs to older content. you have already beaten it, multiple times probably. What benefit are you getting from having lesser skilled/experienced players finally see that content? Why wouldn't the developers want more people to see the content they have created? You had your fun, you overcame the initial challenge. There's new challenges to overcome now.

Originally Posted by Pooky

Which is a good thing. Even at 25%, you still will need to perform well. You will have more room for error, be afforded more mistakes and stuff, but 25% to healing, defense and damage isn't going to make it so you can walk in an win blindly.

I agree, it's a sensible approach.

what's the point for new players catching the main group in BC2... if they can't win T5 without echo how they can pass just T6 without any help? They can't.

Originally Posted by SekiShiki

what's the point for new players catching the main group in BC2... if they can't win T5 without echo how they can pass just T6 without any help? They can't.

They won't pass the new coil. This echo buff is to let new players to enjoy this "unaccesible" content. Then they'll be able to try T6 (and T7+ if they're lucky or they improve). If not, they'll get Echo buff for the new turns... once T10+ become available

maybe it's for allows new player to catch the main group in BC2... who know.

Yep, pretty much that, they want more players clearing T5. Pretty surprised it's an instant buff though. Why not just nerf the entire dungeon while they're at it?

Originally Posted by blowfin

Yep, pretty much that, they want more players clearing T5. Pretty surprised it's an instant buff though. Why not just nerf the entire dungeon while they're at it?

Giving players 10% more stats by being there is pretty much a nerf to the whole dungeon.