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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    The common counter argument to that is that, Levi and the Allagan weapons require end game raiding to obtain.
    This is what baffles me. If people aren't doing end-game raiding, what the heck are they lusting after ilvl 100-110 gear for? That stuff is vicious overkill for anything that isn't second coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    This is what baffles me. If people aren't doing end-game raiding, what the heck are they lusting after ilvl 100-110 gear for? That stuff is vicious overkill for anything that isn't second coil.
    You answered your own question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    This is what baffles me. If people aren't doing end-game raiding, what the heck are they lusting after ilvl 100-110 gear for? That stuff is vicious overkill for anything that isn't second coil.
    Part of the argument could be how..."simple" it was to get ones first relic. It may have been difficult early in 2.0, by the time I got my relic, it was late in patch 2.1 and everything but Titan HM was on easymode farm, and I have no idea how difficult it was in 1.0.

    That being said, it is not far fetched to believe that many has come to view Relics as the "starter" weapon, and thus should be easy (or easier) to obtain and upgrade.

    SE going to the extreme and adding a FATE grind was them trying to again kill several birds with as few stones as possible, but that just conflicted with the perception of the relic weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    Part of the argument could be how..."simple" it was to get ones first relic. It may have been difficult early in 2.0, by the time I got my relic, it was late in patch 2.1 and everything but Titan HM was on easymode farm, and I have no idea how difficult it was in 1.0.
    Kind of silly, since relics used to take a dang long time to make (weeks, depending on how frequently you and your FC played!), and Atma's sound like they take just as long (and then just as long again to upgrade). So, just like 2.0 Relics, and people aren't used to the time commitment 2.0 Relics needed. Unlike 2.0 Relics, they're for people who don't want to raid, but still want delicious raider candy.

    And unlike 2.0 Relics, they aren't an attunement requirement for second Coil. You and your group can kick the door in for that and start getting the sweet, sweet i100 loot any time after you've cleared the now-nerfed first.
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    These people actually thought all it takes is 12 Atma to get the relic? lmao.

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    Goodbye, Final Fantasy...

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    I agree I think the only reason they added the Atma to FATEs was to fool new players into thinking the world is alive.

    Kind of funny though that by the 14th a lot of people will have already got their Atma's.
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    If they do nerf it, I expect it to be around 2.3.
    Not because of some ploy to get PS4 users excited, but more so others can catch up. Much like what went down with the 2.1/0 content when 2.2 came out.
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    I got my atmas after one week of farming, I don't want SE to nerf it because THERE ARE OTHER WEAPONS people can get which are equal or better stats as the Animus. If people hate Atma farming, there are alternatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntank81 View Post
    I got my atmas after one week of farming, I don't want SE to nerf it because THERE ARE OTHER WEAPONS people can get which are equal or better stats as the Animus. If people hate Atma farming, there are alternatives.
    That require's Coil 5 or Titan EX to be done.

    And guess what? The majority of the player base hasn't completed those due to the difficulty and how you can't make the slightest error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killance View Post
    That require's Coil 5 or Titan EX to be done.

    And guess what? The majority of the player base hasn't completed those due to the difficulty and how you can't make the slightest error.
    People want the best, but don't want to raid. The only alternative is the animus weapons for those who don't have the time of day to raid.

    Meant to edit last one. My bad.
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