German Com rep response to "reservation system for dungeons".

[TirionCrey]

It's funny how this conversation went completely out of hand.

I started the topic cause there was a com rep response that "implied" something like Dynamis, but nothing confirmed, it just sounded confusing and the wording wasn't chosen that well.

Now Bayohne comes in and at least tells us how things are meant to be and that he is trying to get us info about how many groups can enter the dungeon at once. And NOW people get all raged up about Dynamis shit? I mean, when I started the thread, it was all viable to get concerned and stuff, but NOW it just makes no sense anymore...

[Starlord]

It's funny how this conversation went completely out of hand.

I started the topic cause there was a com rep response that "implied" something like Dynamis, but nothing confirmed, it just sounded confusing and the wording wasn't chosen that well.

Now Bayohne comes in and at least tells us how things are meant to be and that he is trying to get us info about how many groups can enter the dungeon at once. And NOW people get all raged up about Dynamis shit? I mean, when I started the thread, it was all viable to get concerned and stuff, but NOW it just makes no sense anymore...

I agree.. and most threads get out of hand.. sad but true because people take "ONE" word and then try to make a lot of facts up when its not even true. Opinions are good, but when your sounding like your passing them off as fact that's where the line is drawn.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

It's funny how this conversation went completely out of hand.

I started the topic cause there was a com rep response that "implied" something like Dynamis, but nothing confirmed, it just sounded confusing and the wording wasn't chosen that well.

Now Bayohne comes in and at least tells us how things are meant to be and that he is trying to get us info about how many groups can enter the dungeon at once. And NOW people get all raged up about Dynamis shit? I mean, when I started the thread, it was all viable to get concerned and stuff, but NOW it just makes no sense anymore...

They actually did not imply that. You did. So blame yourself.

[TirionCrey]

They actually did not imply that. You did. So blame yourself.

"No queue system, it's gonna be "First come, first serve"

What does that imply for you Mr. Know it all? This sure as hell gives me concerns about it not being open to more than one group at a time. Cause if it's more than 1 group, why even mention "First come, first serve"?

And obviously, Bayohne himself thought the concern is viable enough to inquire about clarification...so bang some other Brucey.

[Starlord]

"No queue system, it's gonna be "First come, first serve"

What does that imply for you Mr. Know it all? This sure as hell gives me concerns about it not being open to more than one group at a time. Cause if it's more than 1 group, why even mention "First come, first serve"?

And obviously, Bayohne himself thought the concern is viable enough to inquire about clarification...so bang some other Brucey.

Its a Vague statement.. Just wait till Patch day and test it out

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

"No queue system, it's gonna be "First come, first serve"

What does that imply for you Mr. Know it all? This sure as hell gives me concerns about it not being open to more than one group at a time. Cause if it's more than 1 group, why even mention "First come, first serve"?

And obviously, Bayohne himself thought the concern is viable enough to inquire about clarification...so bang some other Brucey.

Several interviews and mentions to the instanced dungeons have talks regarding issues that they are planning on taking for the sever load. Remember the issue where players disliked the fact that you needed 8 players to enter the R45+ dungeon? Remember the reasoning Yoshida gave for this issue? Go read that. Don't walk out of here criticizing players who are also jumping the gun when you just made an issue out of something that was already described as not the case straight from the horse's mouth a month ago. On top of taking an extremely vague comment and suggesting it implies something. You had a thought that was separate from what the rep was saying and applied it to the comment.

[TirionCrey]

Several interviews and mentions to the instanced dungeons have talks regarding issues that they are planning on taking for the sever load. Remember the issue where players disliked the fact that you needed 8 players to enter the R45+ dungeon? Remember the reasoning Yoshida gave for this issue? Go read that. Don't walk out of here criticizing players who are also jumping the gun when you just made an issue out of something that was already described as not the case straight from the horse's mouth a month ago. On top of taking an extremely vague comment and suggesting it implies something. You had a thought that was separate from what the rep was saying and applied it to the comment.

The reasoning for this "it must be 8man to enter the R50 dungeon" was not 1 month ago, actually it was just a few days before the german com response came up. I completely understood the reasoning and I know the reasoning implied that there will be several groups able to enter the dungeon, but doesn't change the fact that contradicting responses are contradicting. Also you seem to miss the fact that by now I'm pretty convinced that several groups will be able to enter the dungeon at once and I said that a few pages ago, which brings me back to my initial post here. Back when I started the topic this whole "is it gonna be like dynamis" thing was viable, as it was a valid concern, but now after Bayohnes post and considering what has been said in the past its completely nonsense but for some reason NOW people choose to go all crazy about it, instead of when it was still "reasonable"...

[Dreadnought]

The reasoning for this "it must be 8man to enter the R50 dungeon" was not 1 month ago, actually it was just a few days before the german com response came up. I completely understood the reasoning and I know the reasoning implied that there will be several groups able to enter the dungeon, but doesn't change the fact that contradicting responses are contradicting. Also you seem to miss the fact that by now I'm pretty convinced that several groups will be able to enter the dungeon at once and I said that a few pages ago, which brings me back to my initial post here. Back when I started the topic this whole "is it gonna be like dynamis" thing was viable, as it was a valid concern, but now after Bayohnes post and considering what has been said in the past its completely nonsense but for some reason NOW people choose to go all crazy about it, instead of when it was still "reasonable"...

but the dynamis waiting list is still completely 'reasonable', we dont know the dungeon capacity in general at all, but its pretty reasonable to assume its going to be marginally less than what it "should" be able to hold.
again, the objective for a game is to have many people play, if many people are playing but are getting server disconnects, waiting in line just to hop in the dungeon, and lock outs then things are not being handled very efficiently.
what i would like to hear instead of "dont worry, everyone will get their chance" from the devs (bassically what i feel were getting from them) is an actual explanation of some basic hardware and software issues they have to help the community understand why things are taking as long as they are and why they cant make 100 instanced copies of one zone.
the zone might be too big for 100 copies of it?

if im not mistaken one of the posts by Yoshi himself specifically states that the dungeon is not new, its actually a copy of an existing zone that will be instanced with particular mobs to give it its own zone theme.
am i correct?

[TirionCrey]

but the dynamis waiting list is still completely 'reasonable', we dont know the dungeon capacity in general at all, but its pretty reasonable to assume its going to be marginally less than what it "should" be able to hold.
again, the objective for a game is to have many people play, if many people are playing but are getting server disconnects, waiting in line just to hop in the dungeon, and lock outs then things are not being handled very efficiently.
what i would like to hear instead of "dont worry, everyone will get their chance" from the devs (bassically what i feel were getting from them) is an actual explanation of some basic hardware and software issues they have to help the community understand why things are taking as long as they are and why they cant make 100 instanced copies of one zone.
the zone might be too big for 100 copies of it?

if im not mistaken one of the posts by Yoshi himself specifically states that the dungeon is not new, its actually a copy of an existing zone that will be instanced with particular mobs to give it its own zone theme.
am i correct?

Yoshi never said the dungeon is an actual copy of an existing zone just instanced. It's an underground area...have you ever seen any cave like underground area in the game yet? And I mean an area as huge as this dungeon, not just any regular cave that exists in dozens...

Actually nothing has been said about the dungeon except for its location and its rank requirement. This video is the first information we really have about it.

[Dreadnought]

Actually nothing has been said about the dungeon except for its location and its rank requirement. This video is the first information we really have about it.

hmmm i have no idea where i got that then but it was in my head the whole entire time that these were zones already in existance, but taken to be instanced versions aswell with diff mobs with a dungeon label slapped on... not that i care i cant wait to play it anyway just saying.
where is the location then? maybe thats what i was thinking about. i just remember people saying you can actually walk to this place but that there isnt any purpose for it atm.