Thread: 2.25 Balance Request Megathread

Originally Posted by Felis

Why would you want to change fists of Wind? The skill is really good in situations where you need to be fast with your feet.

Which are.....? sorry, being monk since 1.0 (well, 1.XX, you know) and... for me is almost useless. When do you want to use it? I did it at the beginning of Titan HM when i wasn't aware of his mechanics and i wanted to be more cautious, but now i use Fist of Fire always, only changing sometimes to Fist of Earth to reduce some damage from unavoidable aoes (and usually i forget to do it lol)

Originally Posted by Gesser

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MONK

1) Arm of the Destroyer – tp to 100
2) Fists of Wind – restore 20tp per auto-attack
3) Greased Lightning – duration to 14s
4) Haymaker – make off-GCD
5) Perfect Balance – retain stance upon expiration; cd to 210s (from 240s)
6) Shoulder Tackle – add Bind/Heavy, remove Stun; dur to 3s, cd to 75s, tp to 100 (from 2s, 90s, 120tp)*

Monk has the strongest DPS in the game. They do not need buffed.

Give bards heals or better songs, and make a true ranged class like Buccaneer we've all been waiting for.

Originally Posted by Gesser

1 - Rockbreaker is extremely powerful in comparison, it doesn't need a tp decrease nor a potency increase.
2 - 20tp per 3s auto-attack at the expense of ALL damage being reduced by 5% is not too much.
3 - GL isn't being reduced, it's being buffed by 2 seconds.
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5 - your opinion; imo a little shorter CD wouldn't hurt.
6 - the point is to keep Shoulder Tackle from hindering the Stun Rotation.

1- Outside of needing to silence ADS I don't use AotD except in fates. I mean I could see why you would want a TP decrease cause its hardly ever used in a AoE situation.
2- I would manage my TP better before I sacrifice 5% of all damage.
3- yeah that was my bad had the twin snake increase in 2.1 confused with GL.

6- Are you talking about Steel Peak? I think maybe you are confused on the two. Either way using them in a Stun Rotation situation the player will just need to not use them (small loss of DPS from Steel Peak). I use Steel Peak to stun Lots of stuff. I also use Shoulder Tackle to stun lots of stuff- Castrum to stun Giants @ cannons, Copperbell mines HM I use it to stun Last boss when coming back from adds, and on some mobs that open with a big AoE. So again I believe both are fine as are the player needs to know when to use and when not to use them.

But overall MNK is pretty over powered as is. There could be a few tweaks but nothing major. As for other jobs I think many of them could use improvements overall.

Originally Posted by Arkista

1- Outside of needing to silence ADS I don't use AotD except in fates. I mean I could see why you would want a TP decrease cause its hardly ever used in a AoE situation.
2- I would manage my TP better before I sacrifice 5% of all damage.
3- yeah that was my bad had the twin snake increase in 2.1 confused with GL.
6- Are you talking about Steel Peak?

1 - exactly why such a change is no big.
2 - exactly why this change isn't drastic & merely a worst-case redemption tool
3 -
6 - no, talking about how you can't use Shoulder Tackle to gap-close on bosses that require a strict stun-rotation (stun-immunization)... e.g. Ifrit HM; this change permits the use of your gap-closer during such encounters without disturbing their stun-resistance.


I would say Monk is in a slightly better place than Bard/Black Mage, but on par with Dragoon & Summoner if those two know their class (e.g. DRG knowing to weave jumps in properly).

Besides, not everything is damage... Dragoons have better generalized AoE at 50 & more tankiness, Summoners much more utility & an in-combat ress... etc.

And like I said in another reply, this Monk list doesn't include my proposed changes for other classes just yet... minor buffs are in store for others.