2.2 has sucked all the fun out of the game...

[Hyrist]

It's pretty dumb how you have to do coil to get i110. The items needed to upgrade should drop elsewhere. 1/30 rare HM dungeon drop or something. (not 1/100. That's stupidly low)

I don't understand why it can't be a rare drop from an extremely difficult Treasure hunt or something. The system already exists and they just need to tune it to be challenging for 8 players around ilvl90 to complete for the loot, then they can have their precious RNG as well, and the Treasure Hunts would have a lot of people doing them.

Point being, there is existing elements in the game for SE to have provided difficulty for worthy reward, and they really did cop out by making it just Coil.

[UBERHAXED]

I don't understand why it can't be a rare drop from an extremely difficult Treasure hunt or something. The system already exists and they just need to tune it to be challenging for 8 players around ilvl100 to complete for the loot, then they can have their precious RNG as well, and the Treasure Hunts would have a lot of people doing them.

Point being, there is existing elements in the game for SE to have provided difficulty for worthy reward, and they really did cop out by making it just Coil.

Ah much better.

[Hyrist]

Ah much better.

You just can't seem to not twist my words... can't you speak for yourself?

After someone just gloated that Coil can be done at ilvl 90, I feel as if I've made an appropriate gauging of the difficulty for these hunts.

Note that I specifically mean for Upgrade items, which means the 3 months it takes to grind out a full set of ilvl100 items through Solidarity tomes is still in place.

Ideally, I'd like some adjustments to Coil loot as well to make it more reliable for those who'd rather just Raid, especially given the lockout. But I'm caught somewhere between a token system and reworking the algorithms to only drop loot for attending Jobs as far as suggestions go.

For the sake of conversation, which would you prefer?

[Starlord]

made many of my friends quit

I can never tell when people say this, if it's true or not. It's like, "Hey I'm leaving and 5 other friends are leaving too!" I get the person in question is leaving but the other people he is referring to, are they "truly" leaving? lol

[Awrini]

God damn people. It has only been two weeks since this content has come out. I'm sorry that this patch added something for the "top 5-10%". Well we sat back and waited through 2.1. Stop being a unique snowflake.

[indira]

God damn people. It has only been two weeks since this content has come out. I'm sorry that this patch added something for the "top 5-10%". Well we sat back and waited through 2.1. Stop being a unique snowflake.

you mean "its been 3 years 7 months people, SE still dont know what to do with this game. ".
constantly pushing ilvl gap every 3 months is not good its just a gear treadmill that mask having lame content.

[Duelle]

They should take it from Blizzard who's said that this isn't a sustainable business model. When you alienate all but 5-10% of the player population from experiencing new content by making it inaccessible, you're not only wasting resources as a company, but potentially losing subscribers who feel like they aren't getting anywhere.

This. Stroking the egos of the few to cockblock a larger group of people leads to resentment. There's reasonable pacing mechanisms, but 2.2 is not it.

[Airget]

Would say there is a middle missing in content, because of how Ilevel is atm it's I guess perceived as two easy or two hard. Two easy being the 3 new HM dungeons, even with the lag against the Diabolos boss it was still easily beatable granted it did take more time and the brayflox dungeon HM is a bit of a joke.

Then there is Coil which is more difficult however it's less accessible in terms of only being able to do the content a few times ago. While we have Crystal Tower that may act as a middle between these difficulties, it's raid concept and the fact you can't exactly go with your own group doesn't give it the feel of a community/FC based content.

The way they tuned the ilevel for the latest dungeons is a step to small considering that the soldier tomes allow one to obtain i100 gear, so in essence you are entering an ilevel 55 dungeon with the ability to grant you i70(loot drops) i90(mytho tokens) and i100(soldier token) drops.

While they have found a good balance in terms of loot drop and distribution the difficulty curve is very skewed atm at least when it comes to potential rewards.

With 3 dungeons released they could make them more stepping stones rather than all being il55 such as
Brayflox HM=75 tomes, 10 soldier, i70 gear drop il55 requirement
Hatalia HM=50 tomes, 45 soldier, i70 gear drops, i65 requirement
Lost City=75 mytho, 45 soldier(25 mytho if soldier is capped). i70 gear drops(no darklight gear), i70/75 requirement

In this sense variety is offered, a player could focus on getting more mytho tomes in an easier dungeon while gearing up to 70 or focus getting a balance amount of tomes and gear or when they become strong enough can tackle the "toughest" of the new dungeons and be granted with the ability to gain more mytho tomes if they capped soldier.

It would at least grant more incentive to try the other dungeons since as it stands now the only reason to do one over the other mainly atm is to complete the atma books.

[Zumi]

There are many people doing new coil, levi and mog ex, you see tons of party finder groups for levi ex and mog all day since there is no lockout.

[cearka]

The crafting bench would be cool to make but if lvl 50 crafter could benefit from it since the 3 stars take a lot of CP.

I actually love the new patch, but I totally agree on this one. Whose idea was it exactly to make a 3 star piece of furniture that requires a myth material to make, thus really requiring not just a lvl 50 crafter but a high end lvl 50 crafter to make, NOT benefit the person making it? as such, its totally useless. either make it pure vanity (ie benefit to no one), or make it benefit everyone. otherwise its kinda a slap in the face.