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  1. #131
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    Xatsh's Avatar
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    Xatsh Vei
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    Hyperion
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    2.2 honestly I feel was a small step in the right direction for this game, the path is was on was 100% unsustainable longterm for a large segment of the population.

    So far pre-2.2 the game has catered to only those with limited time. The weekend warriors. Once mastered the games content took maby 4-5hrs a week to do everything worthwhile in the game. For a hardcore player that 1/7 days worth of playtime.

    Long term content and things that are not insta-drop where needed. And I hope SE ignores the so called 90% that is saying how horrible this is... because 95% of the game is already geared to those people. Casual need to stop whining when 100% of everything is not catered to them. Hell the Upgraded relics in general are gimp even when fully upgraded when compared to the BIS piece.

    People who hate working for items... do one of the many alternatives this game has....... This is how a mmo should be made content for everyone, not content for the lowest denominator or largest segment of players only.

    Now with that said almost everyone I meet hates the relic system. Casuals, midcores, and hardcore alike. The casuals hate it because it requires a huge time sink, many hardcores hate it because the weapon requires work and it is subpar, Other hardcores hate it because it forces us to do FATES which huge segments of the population just hate all together. Midcores are some of everything it seems.


    SE needs to revamp longterm content:
    1) Make it equivalent to the BIS gear when 100% drops are not garenteed. Make the work worth it.
    2) Base some of the goals on guilds. Require more then mindless solo zerg. Longterm goals are more bearable when you are doing them with a guild or friends.
    3) Stop making items strait Stat increases.
    4) STOP PUTTING CONTENT IN FATES!!!!!!


    To the casuals who are flipping out because 5% of the game is not for them. Deal with it and play the other content that was designed for you or quit, stop trying to ruin it for those who want stuff to do after more then 10hrs a week of playtime. Remember Relic Weapons are not any better then stuff that drops from Non-Grind related activities.
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  2. #132
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    Ayia Summersong
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    - I began crafting an item needed (50 High Quality total) for my new crafting weapon. After I ran out of High Quality resources, I moved on to the Normal Quality resources. To my amazement, I was able to craft
    at perhaps a 85% High Quality pass rate. During the process I converted my old tool and melded another one gaining 1 extra craftmanship skill. Went on to attempt to craft up the rest of my non
    HQ resources only to have a 2% HQ pass rate. (I did not upgrade my tool enough to change my progress rotation) All i did was fail, fail, fail, fail. I went back a few hours later. Same thing: fail.
    Equipped another tool like the one i was using before, and did nothing but pass. I was penalized for having BETTER equipment! This game is fail lmao indeed!!!
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  3. #133
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I'm having more fun now than I've had since launch.
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  4. #134
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    Lamentations Finito
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    I agree with all of what Xatsh has to say here (post 131), and because of time I am "not" hardcore, the real problem with this game is the players not the content.

    The mass % of players want easy-mode, the rest want challenge-mode, either way content gets devoured at such a rate SE cant hope to produce it fast enough.

    To those who feel 10% of the player base should simply be ignored I would point out that 10% of sub fee profits lost would also mean 10% less investment capital for future content.

    Casuals and hardcore I understand, elitists (generally assholes) I refuse to tolerate.

    I am not now nor will I ever be a white knight or fanboy, I have a deep hatred for EA and a simmering one for Ubisoft, SE isn't that bad a company, I have played f2p stuff with many more stability and bug issues.

    SE will get content out for both casuals and hardcore, they have already done so, people need to just quit crying and be more patient, maybe even (gasp) go outside.

    I expect the real measure of 14s future success or failure will start to show with the first expansion next year, until then doom and gloom is mere opinion.

    Later, have fun, going "outside" now.
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    Last edited by Lamentations; 04-10-2014 at 06:03 AM.

  5. #135
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    SirenRanger's Avatar
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    Loen Rangre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wicc View Post
    I'm having fun

    Same here.
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  6. #136
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    I honestly don't know how anyone could say 2.2 sucked the fun out of the game? Did SE remove any part of what was fun before? To me, they made old content more accessible for everyone and added content.

    And as for the atma fate grind. It seems to me like it was a good idea. (hear me out) Yes, at first, there were swarms of people doing fates for atma so lower lvl people couldn't participate. But the hype is wearing off and many people are done with fates. So higher lvl people doing fates can actually be helpful to others who are leveling. And what about the fates that need to be completed to unlock CT? Most people cannot solo those. And people who have already unlocked CT wouldn't participate in those fates otherwise. So the atma farm is helpful to those that need those fates to unlock CT.
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  7. #137
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    Ezekial Ine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumiho View Post
    blah blah blah
    I am not Asian or a robot, I only play a few hours a day a couple days a week for the past few months, and I managed to kill Twintania every week after the world first twister nerf. I don't see why you are complaining about the content blockage of Twintania. If you can't kill it--and even with the echo buff now--then you're clearly not ready for the content after, as it doesn't get any easier.

    You're not going to have a good time playing alone, and that's the same with all MMO's. There is no respectable MMO I can think of where you can do end game content without a dedicated group.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    So the atma farm is helpful to those that need those fates to unlock CT.
    You obviously haven't done the atma grind, or started myth farming/books. You're trying to give your input on something you haven't done.
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  9. #139
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    Phil Collins
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    I am having more fun than ever before
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrEzekial View Post
    You obviously haven't done the atma grind, or started myth farming/books. You're trying to give your input on something you haven't done.
    Yes, I have. I didn't take it too serious the first week. Also have had horrible luck, but at least I have 8 now. And as for the books, I am looking forward to the goal oriented nature of them. I experience the books through the members in my FC who are on them as well as my daughter's account of her experience with them.

    So, yes, I can.

    And I don't plan on spamming Brayflox for myth because upgrading my weapon is not that serious. My allagan weapon is good enough for now.

    You clearly have an attitude problem.
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    Last edited by Alipoprocks; 04-10-2014 at 08:16 AM.

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