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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
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    Except people will switch if new tank classes/jobs are "interesting" enough (subjective to each player). If you enjoy a job's unique mechanics enough, you'll be willing to play it regardless. I'm currently leveling both PLD and WAR. I absolutely hate playing WAR. Does that mean I hate tanking? No (well, ok, just a little), it just means I hate WAR. I like PLD far more than I do WAR and so I'm willing to put up with some of the annoyances that come with playing it. And since I know someone is going to counter with this, this may be anecdotal evidence but it holds about as much weight as your pure speculations do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Except people will switch if new tank classes/jobs are "interesting" enough (subjective to each player). If you enjoy a job's unique mechanics enough, you'll be willing to play it regardless. I'm currently leveling both PLD and WAR. I absolutely hate playing WAR. Does that mean I hate tanking? No (well, ok, just a little), it just means I hate WAR. I like PLD far more than I do WAR and so I'm willing to put up with some of the annoyances that come with playing it. And since I know someone is going to counter with this, this may be anecdotal evidence but it holds about as much weight as your pure speculations do.
    That's not exactly true. The majority of people don't fulfill the tank role because of the responsibility it has. The role being fun or not is a very uncommon reason, at least so far as to be the primary reason not to take up the role. You actually have to pay some attention to do it well. I love playing as my PLD, but I refuse to use it in any endgame dungeons with randoms. The interesting portion would sway some, but I'd actually be willing to bet it would still have a result of low tank numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
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    Majority, yes, but the fact remains that there are some people who don't tank because they find both tank jobs boring. If you play any sort of MOBA, you can observe this phenomenon. For example, in League of Legends, support is the garbage role most people don't want anything to do with. Riot released a character (Thresh, if you do play it) that was considered "fun" by many and the number of supports went up. It's still the least played role, but there are more people willing to play it because of that one character.
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    I wish SE would of made it so roulette's counted for the tank mount achievement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Majority, yes, but the fact remains that there are some people who don't tank because they find both tank jobs boring. If you play any sort of MOBA, you can observe this phenomenon. For example, in League of Legends, support is the garbage role most people don't want anything to do with. Riot released a character (Thresh, if you do play it) that was considered "fun" by many and the number of supports went up. It's still the least played role, but there are more people willing to play it because of that one character.
    Don't get me wrong, I mean I agree that numbers for tank roles in the DF would go up a tad if there were some extra stuff thrown in to make it more interesting (though I lack insight as to how to do that properly). But it doesn't change the responsibility aspect of the role. Being support, for example, is not popular because you don't visually see yourself making things easier/better or see high numbers. But you also don't need to fear the responsibility aspect of it all.

    I'll take FFXI support jobs as an example on that. I used to play as a BRD in XI, and absolutely loved the job. They were very rare for a long time, particularly good ones, but the impact they had on groups was ridiculously helpful. You (the BRD) hit like you're swinging pillows, but your songs buff the group enough to make everyone seem like they're gods (exaggeration). You work, essentially, behind the scenes. No truly noticeable responsibilities, despite how big of an impact you can have.

    I think we're both on the same page here, just expressing our own outlook on the matter.
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