Summoner: Advanced Mechanic Testing

[Hartack]

Actually the remaining seconds for recast is shown on the tooltip (the tooltip is shown by mouseovering the actionbar icon). As for Wind Blade, the number always starts from '3'. Considering the fact that such remaining seconds shown in-game are always rounded-style in FF14, the recast of Wind Blade is consistently 3.0 seconds.


[To be addressed further]
Although the cast and the recast of the pet spells were shown to be consistent, the interval between the recast-up and next-cast seemed rather fluctuating, somehow. While the cast and the recast have resulted to have 30ms error, the intervals have approximately 100ms error. This interval fluctuation was likely not to correlate the summoner's spellspeed and the garuda's critically-hit incidences, and other possible factors. I suppose that this fluctuation has ever misled the result of previous examinations including the youtube movie referred above. (or hidden change was applied through patch 2.1 or 2.2 maybe)

[Hartack]

I have just found a previous pet spellspeed examination report regarding Scholar's fairie in the Japanese healer subforum.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/147237

Reviewing the thread, the system mechanics of pet spellspeed have changed a few times through previous patches.

Patch 2.0
Tooltip: static (unaffected by summoner's spellspeed)
Actual: unknown

Patch 2.1~2.15
Tooltip: modified (affected by summonner's spell speed)
Actual: modified

Patch 2.16 (at the time of the posts of the thread referred)
Tooltip: static
Actual: modified

Patch 2.2
Tooltip: static
Actual: modified

EDITED: Mechanic in 2.2 is the same as 2.16

[Judge_Xero]

Nice information Hartack. That's a neat way to test the cast\recast time and definitely better than a stopwatch.
I guess the deviation is what led me to think there was a difference with the spell speed. It seems it's just a visual difference based on server latency most likely.

So maybe Crit and DET is still great for Summoner.

[Zamii]

as someone pointed out earlier, this is current either bugged or changed (without a patch note to notify us) and does not alter garuda, it did, however, change the cast time before 2.2 (maybe 2.21, i didnt pay close enough attention) and that was indicated by the tooltip of our garuda-egi's skills also.

on a side note, it is spur and not rouse that changes our pets stats last i checked, but i'll have to double check.

EDIT: just double checked and it is spur that resets stats and not rouse

[Hartack]

I think things regarding spellspeed now be made clear.

I would like to examine crit and det effect on the pet quantitatively if there is a chance. (or waiting for seeing a report from others)

[Judge_Xero]

I think things regarding spellspeed now be made clear.

I would like to examine crit and det effect on the pet quantitatively if there is a chance. (or waiting for seeing a report from others)

That would be helpful. I haven't seen any Pet stat testing especially on how much DET effects their damage/healing.

I'm still a bit confused as to why SE picks Spell Speed for Summoner if there is no bonus to the pets or bonuses to DoTs (that we know of).

[Hartack]

A preliminary result of my experiment for crit effect on garuda is abit inconceivable. I'm now reviewing the data and checking the validity.

[Method]
Log Parser: ACT
Target: LV1 Target Dummy in Summerford (I dunno the exact English name)
*I used the most north one for the low crit attempt and the most south one for the high crit profile. (Both are lv1)

[Low Crit]
Stats Profile:
INT 309, Hit 368, Crit 341, Det 230, Sspd 341
Garuda's Wind Blade:
Swing 10733, Crit 1539
Probability:
14.3 +- 0.6%

[High Crit]
Stats Profile:
INT 511, Hit 434, Crit 503, Det 273, Sspd 451
Garuda's Wind Blade:
Swing 4403, Crit 351
Probability:
8.0 +- 0.7%

If someone knows any previous report for pet crit, it is very appreciated if the url link is provided. I have not searched information about SMN so much in the past, since my main class is not SMN.

The help for data collection will be required. it took 10 hours for 10000 swings...

[Hartack]

Further research strongly suggests that garuda stats are snapshotted when summoned (like wow temporal pet in the WotLK and Cata)

I'm now examining whether the snapshotted stats are affected not only by gears but also by temporal buffs. At this time, I suppose it seems that the snapshotted stats are contributed only from gears.

Maybe, spellspeed things have to be reexamined... I remember I did not resummon garuda during the tests.

[Hartack]

- Pet stats are set upon summon as well as when Rouse is used (Based on player stats)

Actually, I have overlooked (and misunderstoodd) the Judge's and Zamii's post. I feel ashamed so much!

[Hartack]

Anyway, I could sufficiently collect the data for pet crit formula estimation. The garuda's base crit was different from master's base crit (5.3%) and the converting formula was also different.

Crit 341 (Summoner's Crit is 5.3%)
Swing 10092, Crit 848
Probability: 8.4 +- 0.5%

Crit 471 (Summoner's Crit is 14.4%)
Swing 10733, Crit 1539
Probability: 14.3 +- 0.6%

Crit 503 (Summoner's crit is 16.6%)
Swing 5000, Crit 775
Probability: 15.5 +- 0.8%


Approximated formula is:

Pet Critical Rate = 0.0443 x Summoner's Crit - 6.6745

* Summoner's Crit Rate = 0.0697 x Crit - 18.437 (from BLITZBALL)