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  1. #1
    Player
    Rak_Boy's Avatar
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    Kuro Otaku
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 60

    SMN need less casting time for dots

    because smn start doing dps after 5 seconds from any fight..


    Bio II : casting time ( 2.5 seconds) "with some gears it can reduce to 2.43"

    Miasma : casting time ( 2.5 seconds) "with some gears it can reduce to 2.43"

    Bio : instant .. but u cant cast for the next 2.5 seconds except Fester.

    for fast killing .. smn is the worse of all
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    RxRai's Avatar
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    Risk Solis
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    DoT classes aren't generally meant to be bursty. At the start at least.
    That's more BLM territory.

    Plus you have your Egi to help dps.
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    SMN strengths aren't on trash mobs, as they die too quickly. SMN really shine on bosses. They have the highest sustained DPS in game right now if played correctly, and can melt HP away.
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    That's stupid.

    In 10 seconds after starting you have done 815 potency if you have an aetherflow stack on a single target. The initial fester after applying dots makes up for any missing potency another class would have done by that point, and from then on we're constantly doing some of the highest potency per gcd of any class in the game.

    Having a wind up is fine
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    Diezel Lon'dik
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Maybe this isnt the class for you. Theres no reason Summoners should have a shorter casting time. and if its that important to you, stack Spell Speed. Your trash-pick up dps are BLM and DRG. Your boss killers are SUM and MNK. Bard is kinda in the middle.
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    SMN is fine against trash, after that 5s for Bio II and Miasma and then a second or so for Bio to apply, you get to Bane and Fester and are quite potent even if overgearing the content. You also have to consider Garuda is a permanent 200+ damage DoT with no apply time. SMN is perfectly fine in dungeons, far from the worst. It's only slightly hampered in 10+ enemy pulls where DRG/BRD/BLM are unrestrained and SMN is for once not dominant.

    If you want to see the worst job in the game against trash, try playing MNK. The basis of the class, ST DPS with significant ramp-up and poor AoE (outside of once ever 3 minutes), is as anti-dungeon as it gets.
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    givemeraptors's Avatar
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    Felendis Vreer
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    If you want to see the worst job in the game against trash, try playing MNK. The basis of the class, ST DPS with significant ramp-up and poor AoE (outside of once ever 3 minutes), is as anti-dungeon as it gets.
    Urgghhh, I'm leveling monk right now and it is horrible. Tanks who keep enemies' back to the wall, or spin them around for no reason. Then it takes so long to get all those greased lightning stacks and they inevitably fall off between pulls ;_;

    On a boss I'm all WA-POW!!! but on trash it's all plink-plink and running around like a headless chicken. Don't even get me started on trying to do solo content. It's the worst.
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    Natsu Sousuke
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    No. For lesser cast time or namely; Buff, it should go to BLM.

    I am serious. They are now one of the lower DPS class. SMN just sits at the top comfortably. I can slack whole day and still comes on top most of the time.

    Your Fester is your burst.
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    anything that absolutly needs to die fast (such as gaols in titan ex, conflags in turn 5 and the bulbs in turn 6, etc) can all be killed with time to spare with careful aetherflow management, to the point where as a summoner, im usualy highest damage on all of the targets mentioned, thats even with a black mage in party.

    good aetherflow management is the difference between a good summoner, and a great one, it just takes a lot of practice.
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    Rak_Boy's Avatar
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    Kuro Otaku
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I mean u have this much of time STANDING
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