Summoner: Advanced Mechanic Testing

[Hartack]

[Result]
The cast time and recast time of garuda's Wind Blade and Aerial Slash was completely static. The following are examples:

SSPD 518
0 (ms) "Aerial Slash" cast starts (the frame the cast bar firstly appears)
2832 "Aerial Slash" cast ends (the frame the cast bar disappears)
28632 "Aerial Slash"'s cooldown ends (the frame the cooldown seconds shown on the tooltip disappears)
SSPD 351
0 (ms) "Aerial Slash" cast starts
2866 "Aerial Slash" cast ends
28665 "Aerial Slash"'s cooldown ends

SSPD 518
0 (ms) 1st "Wind Blade" cast starts
950 1st "Wind Blade" cast ends
99401 30th "Wind Blade" cast ends
SSPD 351
0 (ms) 1st "Wind Blade" cast starts
967 1st "Wind Blade" cast ends
99367 30th "Wind Blade" cast ends

* no spell speed buff procs during the tests
* the range between the garuda and the target is consistent (A separate test changing the range has also been conducted and shown the range has no effect)

[Hartack]

I have just found a previous pet spellspeed examination report regarding Scholar's fairie in the Japanese healer subforum.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/147237

Reviewing the thread, the system mechanics of pet spellspeed have changed a few times through previous patches.

Patch 2.0
Tooltip: static (unaffected by summoner's spellspeed)
Actual: unknown

Patch 2.1~2.15
Tooltip: modified (affected by summonner's spell speed)
Actual: modified

Patch 2.16 (at the time of the posts of the thread referred)
Tooltip: static
Actual: modified

Patch 2.2
Tooltip: static
Actual: modified

EDITED: Mechanic in 2.2 is the same as 2.16

[Judge_Xero]

Nice information Hartack. That's a neat way to test the cast\recast time and definitely better than a stopwatch.
I guess the deviation is what led me to think there was a difference with the spell speed. It seems it's just a visual difference based on server latency most likely.

So maybe Crit and DET is still great for Summoner.

[Zamii]

as someone pointed out earlier, this is current either bugged or changed (without a patch note to notify us) and does not alter garuda, it did, however, change the cast time before 2.2 (maybe 2.21, i didnt pay close enough attention) and that was indicated by the tooltip of our garuda-egi's skills also.

on a side note, it is spur and not rouse that changes our pets stats last i checked, but i'll have to double check.

EDIT: just double checked and it is spur that resets stats and not rouse

[Hartack]

I think things regarding spellspeed now be made clear.

I would like to examine crit and det effect on the pet quantitatively if there is a chance. (or waiting for seeing a report from others)

[Judge_Xero]

I think things regarding spellspeed now be made clear.

I would like to examine crit and det effect on the pet quantitatively if there is a chance. (or waiting for seeing a report from others)

That would be helpful. I haven't seen any Pet stat testing especially on how much DET effects their damage/healing.

I'm still a bit confused as to why SE picks Spell Speed for Summoner if there is no bonus to the pets or bonuses to DoTs (that we know of).

[Hartack]

A preliminary result of my experiment for crit effect on garuda is abit inconceivable. I'm now reviewing the data and checking the validity.

[Method]
Log Parser: ACT
Target: LV1 Target Dummy in Summerford (I dunno the exact English name)
*I used the most north one for the low crit attempt and the most south one for the high crit profile. (Both are lv1)

[Low Crit]
Stats Profile:
INT 309, Hit 368, Crit 341, Det 230, Sspd 341
Garuda's Wind Blade:
Swing 10733, Crit 1539
Probability:
14.3 +- 0.6%

[High Crit]
Stats Profile:
INT 511, Hit 434, Crit 503, Det 273, Sspd 451
Garuda's Wind Blade:
Swing 4403, Crit 351
Probability:
8.0 +- 0.7%

If someone knows any previous report for pet crit, it is very appreciated if the url link is provided. I have not searched information about SMN so much in the past, since my main class is not SMN.

The help for data collection will be required. it took 10 hours for 10000 swings...

[Hartack]

Further research strongly suggests that garuda stats are snapshotted when summoned (like wow temporal pet in the WotLK and Cata)

I'm now examining whether the snapshotted stats are affected not only by gears but also by temporal buffs. At this time, I suppose it seems that the snapshotted stats are contributed only from gears.

Maybe, spellspeed things have to be reexamined... I remember I did not resummon garuda during the tests.

[Hartack]

- Pet stats are set upon summon as well as when Rouse is used (Based on player stats)

Actually, I have overlooked (and misunderstoodd) the Judge's and Zamii's post. I feel ashamed so much!