On the importance of the elder primal, Odin

[Skyhound]

There was already a thread about Odin a while back. There is actually a side quest in Gridania which explains the legend of Odin. During the reign of the Allagan Empire, Odin slew Urth and her people. An unknown Allagan Hero managed to defeat Odin and imprison him in Urth's Fount. It is unknown what grudge Odin had against Urth, but Urianger heavily implies that he is not a malevolent force. He tells the player that the legend only tells one side of the story and that the Adventurer should try to discover the other side. So there definitely will be more involving Odin in the future.

My personal theory is that Odin is tied to Garlemald somehow, possibly the "missing link" in evolution between Allagan and Garlean lineages. The style of his armor bears a strong resemblance to that of Garlean Armor.

[Kyan]

My personal theory is that Odin is tied to Garlemald somehow, possibly the "missing link" in evolution between Allagan and Garlean lineages. The style of his armor bears a strong resemblance to that of Garlean Armor.

Cool!

I get a whole Hojo-Lucrecia-Vincent vibe from the whole thing, with the knowledge of the Allag being bioengineers of sorts. Perhaps Urth was an Allag biochemist who experimented on her own people, and Odin was a failed experiment in merging human flesh with a primal's essence? I don't know.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

I've been throwing around an idea in my head, that people probably wouldn't agree with, but it does make sense. To me at least.

What if Odin is, in fact, Allag himself? Continuing along the lines of my "let's throw in Fenrir here" idea, perhaps THAT'S what happened to destroy the Allagan empire? That perhaps Urth was once a benevolent ruler with Allag/Odin serving under her, much like Raubahn does for the Sultana? And at some point, Urth began utilizing the power of Fenrir till she became tempered/whatever and Allag/Odin had to kill her to free her. So now Odin wanders the shroud as some kind of self-punishment for his sin of killing her.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

Or at least, his spirit does, conjured up in the same manner as King Moggle Mog XII. That his appearance is more of a test to find a worthy warrior to help slay Fenrir in a possible future expansion? (Please SE, I can has? ;_; )

It might explain what he says in battle: "Here I stand, a god amongst men. Yet here I remain, a man amongst gods."

Given the nature of KMM, it isn't actually a primal, but a god-like being summoned by the will of the Moogles. Perhaps Odin's essence is the same; he's not actually a god, thereby clarifying his second sentence - yet because he's so powerful he's practically a god compared to us, thereby giving reason to the first sentence.

[Kyan]

Whilst the real world mythos has the Fenrir Odin connection, I am not so sure that it is present in Final Fantasy mythology? I'm not so certain that there will be a battle between Odin and Fenrir based on past Final Fantasy games.

[gornotck]

Odin's always been sort of a tragic figure in Final Fantasy lore, though.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

Odin's always been sort of a tragic figure in Final Fantasy lore, though.

It wouldn't be the first time he's disguised himself as someone else (FFIV, iirc?, but in reverse.)