Is WTFast against ToS?

[Jess72]

VPN is not against the ToS, they have already said this.

Also, if they banned VPN they would lose literally half of the Oceanic playerbase... try doing Ex Titan with 400 ping, not gonna happen.

[indira]

if WTFast if its a dns change theres no problem, vpn & other tunneling services are ripoff's thats stuff you can fix with no software.
learn how to portfoward, QoS ports on your router. ask your IPS whats the best MTU for your router. get another DNS from a third party company thats not your ISP.

User Agreement: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...1&tag=users_en

2.5 Data Mining. You may not intercept, mine or otherwise collect information from the Game using unauthorized third party software. <- parser falls here.

[Jonny_Tapas]

Well let's be clear about the wording.

You can not use any 3rd party program that would allow you to do "anything" you could not otherwise do in the game without said 3rd party program.

Unfortunately... without WTFast... you could not dodge! With WTFast! You can! I totally sense the ban stick!

(Incase you didn't get it... I'm trolling! Dev has already said VPN is fine.)

[darkstarpoet1]

This is wrong. This thread contains quite a lot of wrong.

A VPN doesn't alter GAME data in any way, shape, or form. It just changes the way the data travels between you and the server. You're just overriding your ISP's default route with the one provided by the software. Again, for emphasis, no game data gets changed, simply the route taken between you and the server.

You may want to read a few textbooks about how routing works before claiming it changes game data?

you may want to actually read what someone posts before you quote and start commenting trying to tell them to read a book since it's pretty obvious you didn't. here is another quote of mine that you directly quoted.

"a vpn does alter the route the data is sent from your isp to the server"
show me where that is wrong at all because that's exactly what a tunneling service is meant to do.

if i give you something and tell you to take it directly somewhere else and instead of taking it there you give it to your next door neighbor and they take it to there instead did you alter the route or did you take the route that was designated?

anyways as that's not the point i am glad se doesn't consider it bad to use because i know many that use them myself and i do not see where they are bad at all. of course i don't see anything wrong with a parser if used the way they are intended either.

[Magnesium02]

The type of software you are describing in this thread doesn't appear to directly control anything for the FFXIV client, and as such isn't breaking any of the rules. Similar to other programs, 3rd party software is used at your own risk, and we recommend you employ your best judgement when running software not mentioned in the user agreement.

See: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ill-get-banned

Tunelling programs like WTFast and Battleping are not illegal or against ToS

[Kyros]

It would be no different from changing your ISP, Router configuration, or even simply playing the game on a different connection. Its like asking if upgrading your broadband is against the ToS.

(In case that wasn't simple enough, it's not against the ToS).

[blowfin]

"a vpn does alter the route the data is sent from your isp to the server"
show me where that is wrong at all because that's exactly what a tunneling service is meant to do.

That's correct. You also stated this:

however, a vpn does alter the route the data is sent from your isp to the server so it does DIRECTLY alter data.

Which is not correct at all. Changing the route does not amount to changing the data.

[Gardes]

Bottom line is Square Enix can't seem to decide on their stance and it seemns to keep changing everytime they say something and their wordings keep being interpreted differently. Hell, it looks like even yoship, community reps and GMs have different ideas.

Imo it's better to not just say anything about it in the game, lest someone has something against you and report you for it.

[Mithent]

I can't imagine that changing the routing would be an issue - traffic is dynamically routed across the Internet anyway. If SE have a problem at some point, it is more likely to be if the originating IP is being concealed by the use of the VPN.

That said, I find the claimed benefits of these services to be sketchy. If your routing is currently taking you through a dodgy hop, it might help, but bad ping associated with your connection to your ISP's network and just physical distance seem much more common problems, which these services can't help with (as they neither bypass your ISP nor increase the speed of light).

[Nekodar]

Bottom line is Square Enix can't seem to decide on their stance and it seemns to keep changing everytime they say something and their wordings keep being interpreted differently. Hell, it looks like even yoship, community reps and GMs have different ideas.

Imo it's better to not just say anything about it in the game, lest someone has something against you and report you for it.

Their stance have been perfectly clear all along.
It's players trying to re-interpret that stance all the time that is causing the confusion.

They've stated multiple times that they cannot condone even pure parsers, and Yoshi have said that he while he can't condone them, he understands people use them anyway.
Not all parsers are PURE parsers however and some DO things that are definitely not allowed.