Is WTFast against ToS?

[Shioban]

a parser does not affect data in any way, shape, form, or fassion. it reads what is posted on a chat log and compiles it into an easy to read format. however, a vpn does alter the route the data is sent from your isp to the server so it does DIRECTLY alter data.

Parsers directly read the battle logs and memory dumps from FFXIV battle encounters which is seen by the development team as an unfair advantage as not all players have access to it.
So yes, it doesn't alter the data but it is reading it, which is against their terms of service against third party applications.

(Fixing your awful internet connection through any of these 3rd party programmes isn't an unfair advantage)

Arguing otherwise is silly.

[darkstarpoet1]

Parsers directly read the battle logs and memory dumps from FFXIV battle encounters which is seen by the development team as an unfair advantage as not all players have access to it.
So yes, it doesn't alter the data but it is reading it, which is against their terms of service against third party applications.

(Fixing your awful internet connection through any of these 3rd party programmes isn't an unfair advantage)

Arguing otherwise is silly.

i know what you are saying and like i said earlier i do not see it as wrong to use programs such as wtfast. what i am saying is i do not see how knowing what your dps is gives any advantage at all over another player, but i can see how the paid tunneling service will. look at the example below to see what i am talking about.

let's take next door neighbors on the exact same internet provider. in this example both are always getting hit by stuff before it shows and their dps is quite low for both players.

step 1. give one a parser and not give it to the other and send them into an encounter and see if it helps them win. do you think the one with a parser is going to do better dps just because it tells them how much they are doing?

step 2. now give one them a paid tunneling service like wtfast and do not give it to the other. do you think the one with the tunneling service will dodge more of the attacks then it did before?

the answer to step 1 will be no and step 2 will be yes. one is a free program and one is paid. which gives an advantage over the player that lives next door with the same internet provider? that was my only point is i do not see how one is not allowed and one is. personally, i think they both should be allowed.

[Cherie]

Are you using cable internet to play FFXIV?

Then you are in violation of the TOS possibly. Using a method other than dial-up may be considered using a third party to access the game which is not allowed.

Personally I made a long distance call to SE Japan's data center number, then place my rotary phone down on to my modem receiver box. After that I'm good for a gaming session for quite a while. I highly recommend it. I experience zero lag this way.

Those of you using cable are manipulating the game data in ways that are not allowed and it really grants you no special benefits. I can understand it's cheaper than calling Japan long distance, but it's something you just have to do if you truly are a Final Fantasy fan.

[blowfin]

however, a vpn does alter the route the data is sent from your isp to the server so it does DIRECTLY alter data.

This is wrong. This thread contains quite a lot of wrong.

A VPN doesn't alter GAME data in any way, shape, or form. It just changes the way the data travels between you and the server. You're just overriding your ISP's default route with the one provided by the software. Again, for emphasis, no game data gets changed, simply the route taken between you and the server.

You may want to read a few textbooks about how routing works before claiming it changes game data?

[darkstarpoet1]

This is wrong. This thread contains quite a lot of wrong.

A VPN doesn't alter GAME data in any way, shape, or form. It just changes the way the data travels between you and the server. You're just overriding your ISP's default route with the one provided by the software. Again, for emphasis, no game data gets changed, simply the route taken between you and the server.

You may want to read a few textbooks about how routing works before claiming it changes game data?

you may want to actually read what someone posts before you quote and start commenting trying to tell them to read a book since it's pretty obvious you didn't. here is another quote of mine that you directly quoted.

"a vpn does alter the route the data is sent from your isp to the server"
show me where that is wrong at all because that's exactly what a tunneling service is meant to do.

if i give you something and tell you to take it directly somewhere else and instead of taking it there you give it to your next door neighbor and they take it to there instead did you alter the route or did you take the route that was designated?

anyways as that's not the point i am glad se doesn't consider it bad to use because i know many that use them myself and i do not see where they are bad at all. of course i don't see anything wrong with a parser if used the way they are intended either.

[Jess72]

VPN is not against the ToS, they have already said this.

Also, if they banned VPN they would lose literally half of the Oceanic playerbase... try doing Ex Titan with 400 ping, not gonna happen.

[indira]

if WTFast if its a dns change theres no problem, vpn & other tunneling services are ripoff's thats stuff you can fix with no software.
learn how to portfoward, QoS ports on your router. ask your IPS whats the best MTU for your router. get another DNS from a third party company thats not your ISP.

User Agreement: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...1&tag=users_en

2.5 Data Mining. You may not intercept, mine or otherwise collect information from the Game using unauthorized third party software. <- parser falls here.

[Alistaire]

if WTFast if its a dns change theres no problem, vpn & other tunneling services are ripoff's thats stuff you can fix with no software.
learn how to portfoward, QoS ports on your router. ask your IPS whats the best MTU for your router. get another DNS from a third party company thats not your ISP.

User Agreement: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...1&tag=users_en

Are you trying to use that statement to say WTFast violates ToS? Wow...just no.

To put this in simpler terms, let's use the mail system, with the only difference being based on receiving mail you're not allowed to open; you're only allowed to have your computer interpret the letters.

So intercept would be opening the mail, mine would be reading it, collect information would be either a combination of reading it or idk, looking at what stock of paper it's on.

WTFast just puts your mail on next-day delivery instead of normal mailing time. There's nothing against that.

...and yes that analogy's not perfect, just trust from an IT tech perspective that that 2.5 note about data mining has absolutely nothing to do with running a vpn such as WTFast.

[Jonny_Tapas]

Well let's be clear about the wording.

You can not use any 3rd party program that would allow you to do "anything" you could not otherwise do in the game without said 3rd party program.

Unfortunately... without WTFast... you could not dodge! With WTFast! You can! I totally sense the ban stick!

(Incase you didn't get it... I'm trolling! Dev has already said VPN is fine.)

[Magnesium02]

The type of software you are describing in this thread doesn't appear to directly control anything for the FFXIV client, and as such isn't breaking any of the rules. Similar to other programs, 3rd party software is used at your own risk, and we recommend you employ your best judgement when running software not mentioned in the user agreement.

See: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ill-get-banned

Tunelling programs like WTFast and Battleping are not illegal or against ToS