I wouldn't leave to avoid the echo, and I think point of wipe and pt advertisement have a lot to do with it.

If you put in pt finder "must be exp, farming pt be über!!" And we wipe before heart in Titan or second spikes in ifrit or 3 people slide off when the rails disappear in Levi, sorry, I'm out... This is not a farm pt.

If I join a "learning" pt I fully expect some failure, but again if that lulz baddy won't listen and makes the same mistake repeatedly I'll ask he be removed or dip myself.