EX Primals and ragequitting

[Orophin]

I don't mind taking advantage of the buff, but you can't fix people that can't dodge landslides/plumes/bombs. If the same people die every time you're better off just cutting your losses and trying another group.

[Kajidourden]

True, I guess it's just annoying when so many groups wipe one time and are like "nope nope nope"

[Noahlimits]

True, I guess it's just annoying when so many groups wipe one time and are like "nope nope nope"

To play devil's advocate; if I see people eating multiple plumes and landslides pre heart, I know the party is doomed for failure. No echo buff is going to save someone eating 5 stacked plumes, bombs or landslides.

[Chiramu]

To play devil's advocate; if I see people eating multiple plumes and landslides pre heart, I know the party is doomed for failure. No echo buff is going to save someone eating 5 stacked plumes, bombs or landslides.

No echo buff will help if the DPS die to landslide on Titan...

[RyuDragnier]

To play devil's advocate; if I see people eating multiple plumes and landslides pre heart, I know the party is doomed for failure. No echo buff is going to save someone eating 5 stacked plumes, bombs or landslides.

The problem is you don't know if their connection is just having a hiccup that lasted for a brief period of time or not. We had a bad run earlier on the first attempt because I was lagging pretty bad for the first 2 minutes. After that first failed attempt, we had no problems, no deaths or anybody eating a plume until after the heart phase. You can't judge a run by the first attempt, it's just stupid to do that. That same group I was in managed to beat Titan EX 3 attempts later (same instance). It could very well be possible that the parties people back out of could have beaten Titan EX, but the fools who leave after one wipe will cause the party to never know. That same group also killed Ifrit EX with me and another person also new to the fight in 4 attempts.

But if you see DPS not doing what they're supposed to be doing well (BLM not using Flares, Bards not DoTing, etc), or bad healers, or horrible tanks, that's different. But if everybody is doing what they need to be doing well, give the party a chance.