Ps4 am good with it!!

[Sacred-Oblivion]

High-end would be something with a GTX 780/780 Ti/Titan.

Ultra high-end would be any of those in SLI.

The PS4 isn't even equivalent to a PC with a GTX 670 or GTX 760, which is considered mid-range. Yes, today's mid-range PC's can run the game on max settings AND get higher than 60 FPS (talking 80-100 FPS in CT).

So I'm actually being fairly generous in calling it a mid-range PC.

High-end PC players are playing this game at 120 FPS and/or 2560x1440 (in some cases 5760x1080); myself included. That's far better than the PS4's 60 FPS at 1920x1080.

PS4 players are in the mid-range crowd, which isn't a bad thing at all, but let's not pretend it's high-end compared to a PC.

Apparently we have different views on what constitutes a mid, high, and ultra high end PC so let me clarify my point: the PS4 version of this game graphically looks equivalent to the PC version on max settings.

Also I should point out that it's a mistake to make console & PC comparisons primarily through their hardware. The PS4 doesn't need to run Windows 8 and the dozens of other processes along with it which allows more of its hardware resources to be utilized for gaming. This is why a console will always outperform a PC with specs equivalent to that console. But don't take my word for it...

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/...o-heat-issues/

Yoshida-san explained that the PS4 version of the game runs faster by far than the PC version played on a computer with specs similar to the console, since the PS4 is much better optimized and doesn’t have the disadvantage of using slightly different architecture and shaders depending on the brand and model of the video card. That’s the advantage consoles have over PCs.

Regardless, you do have a nice gaming PC. No doubt you've invested a great deal of money into it. If the game looks much better on your PC as you claim then I'm interested in seeing some screenshots that can be directly compared to the PS4 screenies I posted in my previous post. If you take the time to snap one in the same place, angle, time in day/night cycle, and weather conditions as any one of those screenshots, then I'll compare them impartially as any reasonable person would. Also don't use 3rd party software tools like SweetFX to modify the frames; that way the differences between the shots can be based from the hardware only. Without evidence showing otherwise I'm afraid I'll have to stick to my original point that my $400 machine delivers a visual experience that is very comparable to your multi-thousand dollar gaming rig.

[Blissa]

High-end would be something with a GTX 780/780 Ti/Titan.
PS4 players are in the mid-range crowd, which isn't a bad thing at all, but let's not pretend it's high-end compared to a PC.

Lets be real here how many people can afford to drop $700~$1,000 on a graphics card? And your not getting much of a PC for $700~$800. A decent mid range PC is $1,200 give or take and that's building it yourself

[Suki-]

Completely forgot the duty finder ready chime comes through the controller now.

No more missing groups while on my patio for a smoke. I can just take the controller with me.

I really enjoy this feature as well. Can be cooking dinner and not miss a df. As a dps it's quite depressing if you miss it if you've been queued for a while XD

[Emtron]

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Or we could just save each other the time and pull out the rulers and start measuring since this is all these debates ever come down to, who cares what looks better if it looks good to you that should be the end of it.

[Legend_]

I really enjoy this feature as well. Can be cooking dinner and not miss a df. As a dps it's quite depressing if you miss it if you've been queued for a while XD

Hope you don't forget to turn stove off >.<

I just took it to the next level!
Since PS4 don't have YouTube(don't know why) I switch inputs to my PS3 to watch/refresh on Ex primal fights while I wait. Or switch to TV and watch Sports center

[Capita]

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You realize your arguments apply not just to the PS4, but also to mid-range PC's, right?

I don't think you understand the purpose of a high-end rig. It's not just to get max settings. Any mid-range rig can get max settings and 40-60 FPS out of it. That's perfectly fine for most people, but that's not the purpose of building a high-end rig. If that's all we wanted, we wouldn't bother spending thousands more. I take it you've never played a game at 120 FPS, or tried 3D, or tried triple monitor, or tried to record on FRAPS without so much as losing a point of FPS. No? Then you're the average gamer. Your purpose is different from ours.

So you ask, what was the point in comparing them then? Well, you claimed the PS4 was equivalent to a high-end rig. It's not. Until it can run the game at 120 FPS on max settings, play it in 3D at 60 FPS, run it at 2560x1440, or run it on three 1920x1080 screens, it's not equivalent at all.

Besides, I think it's funny you guys completely ignored the part where I said "the PS4 is more than enough for this game." Am I hating on the PS4? No. I'm buying one so I can play at my apartment. I know how crappy the PS3 version is because I play on the PS3 too when I'm not at home (5 days out of the week). Doesn't change the fact that the PS4 isn't equivalent to a high-end rig, because it can't do the things a high-end rig can. It can do the things a mid-range rig can.

[Capita]

Lets be real here how many people can afford to drop $700~$1,000 on a graphics card? And your not getting much of a PC for $700~$800. A decent mid range PC is $1,200 give or take and that's building it yourself

You can get an excellent PC for $700-800. An AMD 8350 and HD7950 only cost $400 together. A decent motherboard for ~$60. 8GB of DDR3 for ~$80. 1TB HDD for ~$60. That machine is roughly equivalent to a PS4, and that's a baseline price of only $600. You can start figuring out what other features you want from there and upgrade parts as necessary to fit your budget. Is it as cheap as a PS4? No. But if you're in need of an upgrade, and you want to buy a single machine you can use for both gaming and work/school-related stuff, it doesn't cost much. Plus you get cheaper games through Steam.

[JayCommon]

I take it you've never played a game at 120 FPS, or tried 3D, or tried triple monitor, or tried to record on FRAPS without so much as losing a point of FPS. No? Then you're the average gamer. Your purpose is different from ours.

You call someone an average gamer because they don't play in 3D, or care to stream their gameplay?

Any points you may have made about the PC to PS4 comparison just sound like that guy on the HTC One commercial to me now...

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[Capita]

You call someone an average gamer because they don't play in 3D, or care to stream their gameplay?

Any points you may have made about the PC to PS4 comparison just sound like that guy on the HTC One commercial to me now...

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Is there anything wrong with being the average gamer? Because if you don't care about 3D, streaming, super high res, triple monitor, etc. then you're the average gamer. Pretty sure like 99% of every player you meet online is the average gamer. Are you that insecure that you absolutely have to be lumped into a certain category other than average, despite it not having any significance whatsoever on whether or not you're a good or skilled gamer? You want to be lumped into the small group who have nice shinies?

I grant thee, JayCommon, the title of Above Average Gamer.

Feel better?

[JayCommon]

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with average gamers, the problem is the negative connotation you are associating it with and categorizing the term with their choice of hardware. If an original Game Boy user plays Pokemon for 100 hrs straight to "Catch them All", would that be considered an 'average' gamer to you because the Game Boy Advance is already out? By your terms, you belittled a person's point of view because of their hardware and degraded them to an 'average' gamer. It's just a ridiculous point of view, period. I didn't say anything was wrong with an average gamer, you did indirectly.

I could care less how much you try to condescend me. Your point of view is flawed, regardless of your sarcastic and illogical titles you seem entitled to fling around.