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    Loved it.. I put a ton of hours this past weekend.. And yes.. I did all my primals ex.. And dodge everything the way i should have in ps3.... Im glad we're on even footing performance wise with pc players... Oh did i mentioned i always thought mor dhona was a ghost town? Now on ps4 Ive never seen sooooo many damn people at once in one little town >.>'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donironheart View Post
    Im glad we're on even footing performance wise with pc players...
    About halfway there. 120 FPS is still > 60 FPS.

    But seriously, I'm glad it's out on PS4. My beastly PC still beats the hell out of the PS4, but as someone who has to use a PS3 during the week since I can't lug my PC around between my house and my apartment, I know just how bad the disparity between even a crappy PC and a PS3 is in comparison. The PS4 being pretty much a mid-range PC is more than enough to enjoy FFXIV the way it's supposed to be enjoyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capita View Post
    About halfway there. 120 FPS is still > 60 FPS.

    But seriously, I'm glad it's out on PS4. My beastly PC still beats the hell out of the PS4, but as someone who has to use a PS3 during the week since I can't lug my PC around between my house and my apartment, I know just how bad the disparity between even a crappy PC and a PS3 is in comparison. The PS4 being pretty much a mid-range PC is more than enough to enjoy FFXIV the way it's supposed to be enjoyed.
    Saying that they have DX11 while we still stuck with old version. Until then it pushes us down abit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capita View Post
    The PS4 being pretty much a mid-range PC is more than enough to enjoy FFXIV the way it's supposed to be enjoyed.
    Actually, the PS4 is equivalent to a high-end PC on max settings when playing this game.

    Proof: http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/...entical-twins/

    I don't think today's mid-end PCs can run the game on max settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred-Oblivion View Post
    Actually, the PS4 is equivalent to a high-end PC on max settings when playing this game.

    Proof: http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/...entical-twins/

    I don't think today's mid-end PCs can run the game on max settings.
    High-end would be something with a GTX 780/780 Ti/Titan.

    Ultra high-end would be any of those in SLI.

    The PS4 isn't even equivalent to a PC with a GTX 670 or GTX 760, which is considered mid-range. Yes, today's mid-range PC's can run the game on max settings AND get higher than 60 FPS (talking 80-100 FPS in CT).

    So I'm actually being fairly generous in calling it a mid-range PC.

    High-end PC players are playing this game at 120 FPS and/or 2560x1440 (in some cases 5760x1080); myself included. That's far better than the PS4's 60 FPS at 1920x1080.

    PS4 players are in the mid-range crowd, which isn't a bad thing at all, but let's not pretend it's high-end compared to a PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capita View Post
    PS4 players are in the mid-range crowd, which isn't a bad thing at all, but let's not pretend it's high-end compared to a PC.
    As long as you don't pretend a "high end" PC can be built for $500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black91CRX View Post
    As long as you don't pretend a "high end" PC can be built for $500.
    Of course not. The PS4 is great, especially being nearly on-par with a mid-range PC that usually goes between $700-800 (maybe around $600 if you use AMD parts). However, your little post has nothing to do with the argument being made.

    The person said it was equivalent to a high-end PC. It's not. I know this. You know this. Seems to me you're just trying to be all snarky because I insulted your precious system. Don't get butthurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capita View Post
    Of course not. The PS4 is great, especially being nearly on-par with a mid-range PC that usually goes between $700-800 (maybe around $600 if you use AMD parts). However, your little post has nothing to do with the argument being made.

    The person said it was equivalent to a high-end PC. It's not. I know this. You know this. Seems to me you're just trying to be all snarky because I insulted your precious system. Don't get butthurt.

    Just making sure you are not delusional like most PC elitists when it comes to how much things really cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black91CRX View Post
    As long as you don't pretend a "high end" PC can be built for $500.
    I was thinking the exact same thing the GTX 780 graphics card is $700 alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capita View Post
    High-end would be something with a GTX 780/780 Ti/Titan.

    Ultra high-end would be any of those in SLI.

    The PS4 isn't even equivalent to a PC with a GTX 670 or GTX 760, which is considered mid-range. Yes, today's mid-range PC's can run the game on max settings AND get higher than 60 FPS (talking 80-100 FPS in CT).

    So I'm actually being fairly generous in calling it a mid-range PC.

    High-end PC players are playing this game at 120 FPS and/or 2560x1440 (in some cases 5760x1080); myself included. That's far better than the PS4's 60 FPS at 1920x1080.

    PS4 players are in the mid-range crowd, which isn't a bad thing at all, but let's not pretend it's high-end compared to a PC.
    Apparently we have different views on what constitutes a mid, high, and ultra high end PC so let me clarify my point: the PS4 version of this game graphically looks equivalent to the PC version on max settings.

    Also I should point out that it's a mistake to make console & PC comparisons primarily through their hardware. The PS4 doesn't need to run Windows 8 and the dozens of other processes along with it which allows more of its hardware resources to be utilized for gaming. This is why a console will always outperform a PC with specs equivalent to that console. But don't take my word for it...

    http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/...o-heat-issues/
    Yoshida-san explained that the PS4 version of the game runs faster by far than the PC version played on a computer with specs similar to the console, since the PS4 is much better optimized and doesn’t have the disadvantage of using slightly different architecture and shaders depending on the brand and model of the video card. That’s the advantage consoles have over PCs.
    Regardless, you do have a nice gaming PC. No doubt you've invested a great deal of money into it. If the game looks much better on your PC as you claim then I'm interested in seeing some screenshots that can be directly compared to the PS4 screenies I posted in my previous post. If you take the time to snap one in the same place, angle, time in day/night cycle, and weather conditions as any one of those screenshots, then I'll compare them impartially as any reasonable person would. Also don't use 3rd party software tools like SweetFX to modify the frames; that way the differences between the shots can be based from the hardware only. Without evidence showing otherwise I'm afraid I'll have to stick to my original point that my $400 machine delivers a visual experience that is very comparable to your multi-thousand dollar gaming rig.
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