Atmas - Unfair for low level players

[Slatervonjager]

At least oh Hyperion Lv 50 Players tend to stick to fates closer to their Lv IF. Mind you i said IF the zone permits it. so lower Lv players can still utilize fates in some zones.

Well don't forget, those of us on Hyperion are of a higher class then those on other servers. Best server, Hyperion server.


Now to be serious, , This is honestly the only atma complaint thread, that is valid. I actually do feel bad for low level and new players in the game trying to get experience off of fates while this is going on. Especially when peopel say stupid crap like this:

You don't do fates to level up. You do dungeons. If you're pre 15 then you do the hunting log.

WRONG! Hunting log will not take you to level 15 with out doing fates and guildhests at the same time. Not to mention that while you're waiting on a dungeon queue to pop, you can, IDK, DO SOME DAMN FATES FOR MORE EXP. lrn2maximize your leveling ability.

[Skyhound]

I'm not even bothering to read this rediculous thread.

Low level players saying that Atma farming is preventing them from leveling are blatantly lying. It doesn't matter that lvl50's are doing low level fates because they all get level synced down to a comparable level of the lowbies doing them for leveling. Even our gear stats get synced down to stats equivalent of the gear the lowbies can obtain and they can only use skills comparable to that of what would be available to those lowbies. Of all the stupid complaints against Atma farming, this one takes the cake.

The only difference between the Lvl50s and the Lowbies would be experience.

[Alazier]

I\\'m not even bothering to read this rediculous thread.

Low level players saying that Atma farming is preventing them from leveling are blatantly lying. It doesn\\'t matter that lvl50\\'s are doing low level fates because they all get level synced down to a comparable level of the lowbies doing them for leveling. Even our gear stats get synced down to stats equivalent of the gear the lowbies can obtain and they can only use skills comparable to that of what would be available to those lowbies. Of all the stupid complaints against Atma farming, this one takes the cake.

The only difference between the Lvl50s and the Lowbies would be experience.

And mounts, and gear, and groups.. ohh ha yea, new players cant keep up.

[Skyhound]

And mounts, and gear, and groups.. ohh ha yea, new players cant keep up.

Your only valid point is the mount. I already explained that gear gets synced too. When you get synced, open up the character screen. You will see the Level Sync symbol on all of your gear icons. It happens in low level dungeons.

Also lowbies can make parties also, so that point is moot.

Have fun with that strawman of yours.

[Felis]

GC hunting log and delivery gives you seals. Not XPs.
If it was XP they are def not disciples of war/magic related

Maybe you should read my quote before you quote me?

Ok, now for you the content that give exp and are not FATEs
Quests, hunting log, duty roulette, guildhest, leves, dungeons, challenge log

[Wicc]

You don't do fates to level up. You do dungeons. If you're pre 15 then you do the hunting log.

So everyone needs to follow your example? Okay. Every DPS can wait in a dungeon que for 30 minutes or longer because you said so. :]

[Miya_Carbuncle]

Maybe my server is low pop, but I actually feel like it's the complete opposite. I came back to the game and started a new character (I decided that I don't like my old main), and after I started doing fates at around level 20 or so while waiting for my dungeon ques, I hardly saw anyone else doing them. I had to constant teleport to different zones to find where people were doing them. Though maybe that's because my level is really low, lol.

[kiraan]

If you know how to turn the system in your favor, you can actually level pretty quick at low level with those FATEs runs by lvl 50s.

[TurnBased]

Just leaving this here. FATE levelling is more than just getting into a FATE and doing it.

Also, FATES over in 10 seconds is an exaggeration. It usually takes a couple of minutes for the FATE to clear.

I've levelled my SCH primarily spamming Bio and Miasma 2, both in and out of a party.

-PLD : Having trouble targeting and hitting things before they die, just spam flash. As long as you do some damage to atleast one thing during the FATE, you can spend the rest of your time flashing everything.
-WAR: If your having trouble getting your AoE to hit lots of enemies just put on Flash and go PLD on some fools.
-WHM: if you find yourself with no one to heal cast Aero on as many things as possible. It is more important to do damage to multiple enemies than it is to just grind down one.
-BLM: Same thing as WHM if you are having trouble getting your casts off before the enemies die, or can't seem to get your AoE's to hit multiple things, find a quick casting DoT and put it on as many things as you can.
-SMN: Same as the others casters.

http://www.ffxivrealm.com/guides/ren...uide-ebens.26/

Also, a guide for leeching off the ATMA farmers. Instead of complaining about being left out of FATEs try to think of how to turn your situation into an advantage. MMOs of old were all about finding the perfect levelling spot and how to do it quickly. FATE grinding is no different.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...der=true&gid=0

Speaking of which, the best places to FATE grind, South Shroud, Coerthas and Northern Thanalan aren't even included in the ATMA grind. If you're FATE levelling in the proper places then you shouldn't even have to worry about all the 50s doing your FATEs.

[Maikochan]

I would argue that the proper way to play the game is however you find most enjoyable. For me, doing the FATEs with random people and actually feeling useful was far more fun than just going to one and spreading around ticking spells... IF I get to one in time.

I wonder how many people, when leveling their character, actually take it slow and enjoy the game... A mad rush to end-game content doesn't seem very enjoyable, but then, that's just me. Whatever floats your boat, but it shouldn't be at the expense of others' enjoyment.

To be clear I'm not holding anything against those end-gamers who mob the FATEs, though I might get angry about it, I understand there's simple problems with the new system. I just hope threads like these help get the issue resolved sooner rather than later.